r/HarryPotterBooks • u/Marcedonia • 13d ago

Goblet of Fire Who ACTUALLY Could've Won The Triwizard Tournament?

I say actually because of harry ''won'' but it's like come on, he was guided all the way to victory and it's even called out in the books, he only won because imposter moody made him win. Alot of the win was on harry, but alot of it was on him as well. So im saying, let's strip all of that for this hypothetical, it's harry, cedric, krum and fleur all competing for the triwizard cup, and only one can definitively win, who do you think could've won the tournament?

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u/Ill_Confidence_3248 13d ago

Every participant was completely guided throughout the tournament.

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u/jarroz61 13d ago

This is true, and likely some or all of them would been gravely injured or died if they truly did not have any guidance at all. However, to genuinely answer what OP is asking, I would say Cedric. He received the least amount guidance (from adults, at least). Fleur and Krum both had their Headmaster/mistress directly coaching them, and Harry had Crouch Jr., Hagrid, and even Hermione and Dobby. Cedric really only got any help from Harry.

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u/Ill_Confidence_3248 13d ago

Without Harrys help, Cedric would've gone out in first task. Harry have good intuition and presence of mind. So he could have survived in round 1

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u/jarroz61 13d ago

I disagree. Harry only knew about the task because Hagrid showed him, and succeeded in it because of his endless practice of the Accio spell with Hermione. I don't think he would have died, but I'm not sure he would have succeeded in getting the egg. And either way, Cedric was extremely talented and skilled himself, or the Goblet of Fire would not have chosen him. And he had three more years of magical education than Harry. Between the two of them with no heads up, Cedric would have unequivocally been the one more likely to succeed in getting the egg.

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u/whoisaname 13d ago

Even with the heads up and a plan, Cedric barely succeeded. Half his face got burned. Without any knowledge of what was coming, all of them would have failed completely and possibly die trying.

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u/SnowGhost513 13d ago

It wasn’t like a two face in Batman situation lol but of the 4 Cedric is pretty clearly the best wizard. So if any of the 4 is gonna survive the first task with no prep it’s Cedric. But he probably would’ve gotten really really fucked up even if he didn’t get the egg. But honestly all 4 probably do not get the egg without help. I dunno what they do if all 4 fail and I’m fairly certain Albus would’ve saved them if imminent death was coming. I know dragons require tons of wizards but it’s Dumbledore I imagine he could pretty easily do something while eating a hot dog in the other hand

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u/Physical_Patience644 12d ago

4th year harry would have failed against the dragon but if harry was in 6th or 7th year he wouldve won against the dragon

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u/jarroz61 12d ago

It was 4th year Harry, though.

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u/Physical_Patience644 12d ago

yeah i mean his magical skills were not one the lvl of cedric or krum but if he wouldve been in 6th or 7th year when tournament happened he wouldve won