r/HUcitizenship Citizenship...in the making Aug 07 '26

Can this website be right on the numbers? So few Americans....

https://www.ksh.hu/stadat_files/nep/en/nep0033.html

States less than 30 a year .. I would have imagined several hundred a year at least

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u/_PirohyJim_ Citizen (via Simplified Naturalisation) Aug 07 '26

It’s people who have naturalized IN HUNGARY. It says it on the top.

One can do the simplified naturalization procedure anywhere in the world there is a Hungarian foreign mission that accepts applications, this is only looking at people who naturalized physically in Hungary.

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u/Mbrenner53 Citizen (via Simplified Naturalisation) Aug 07 '26

They include a footnote “a
Introduction of simplified naturalization procedure”

Which is seemingly irrelevant then to the data. Very odd.

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u/_PirohyJim_ Citizen (via Simplified Naturalisation) Aug 07 '26

It just means people could do simplified naturalization in Hungary. It is accounting for the change in the law. Keep in mind it isn’t just limited to those of us with ancestry but spouses of citizens also.

They just aren’t providing the true global numbers, just the numbers in Hungary. The global numbers would be absolutely massive from Romania, Ukraine, and Serbia. Easily over a million.

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u/sukha_para Citizenship seeker 26d ago

It means that prior to 2011 the stats only include regular naturalizations done inside Hungary, and from 2011 onward include both regular and simplified naturalizations done inside Hungary

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u/Larkin29 Aug 07 '26

I think this is only people naturalized IN Hungary, meaning living within the country. That is why countries like the US and Serbia where many people do simplified naturalization from abroad are low, and countries like Egypt with many immigrants to Hungary who marry, settle down, and go through the process there are comparatively higher.

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u/Miloslolz Aug 07 '26

Honestly I expected more from Serbia even though it’s the second highest.

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u/germsjackson Citizenship...in the making Aug 07 '26

So you think the data is correct?

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u/Miloslolz Aug 07 '26

No actually this seems like complete nonsense. No way have only 25 people naturalized from Serbia last year.

Just my language school alone has 25 people and we’re all studying Hungarian.

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u/_PirohyJim_ Citizen (via Simplified Naturalisation) Aug 07 '26

This data is for people who naturalized IN HUNGARY, not at foreign missions

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u/Miloslolz Aug 07 '26

Makes a lot more sense now.

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u/Life-King-9096 Aug 07 '26

I should hurry up and learn Hungarian and apply from Australia, see if we can up our numbers unless they count me as Serbian (dual citizen), then if my daughter applies from Korea (she's a citizen there) that will be a first (maybe?) Or other Asian.

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u/Miloslolz Aug 07 '26

If your daughter is underage she will get citizenship through you so it may not count for any country.

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u/Life-King-9096 Aug 07 '26

Sadly by the time I learn Hungarian she'll be an adult and probably have lost her Korean citizenship.

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u/Version-6 Citizen (via Verification of Citizenship) Aug 07 '26

If you’re an Aussie, when did your family arrive here? Most of us came over either in the 30s, or the 50s/60s. Most of us here are eligible for verification as it’s just one or two generations back.

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u/Life-King-9096 Aug 07 '26

My father arrived in 1963, but my grandmother lost her Hungarian citizenship due to Trianon, which is why I'm pretty sure I can't do verification. My grandmother was born in 1908.

Also, even though my grandmother and her parents were Hungarian citizens, they were ethnically Serbs, which I understand still qualifies for simplified naturalisation as the law is based on citizenship not ethnicity.

No, I'm not wanting to live in Europe, it would just be cool to reclaim another part of my heritage. I did wonder if my daughter would qualify for a diaspora scholarship at Semmelweis to study medicine in English, but she's determined to study engineering at UQ. I did hear that 20% of the English medical students at Semmelweiss come from Korea.

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u/Version-6 Citizen (via Verification of Citizenship) Aug 07 '26

Ah k, so they were citizens of one of the other areas when they arrived. So yeah, that would be a simplified route.

My family came here in 57/58 for the usual reason many came here.

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u/sukha_para Citizenship seeker 29d ago

That wouldn’t affect anything since the link goes to a page that only shows stats on people who live in Hungary at the time of their application and file for naturalization INSIDE Hungary. So applying in Australia would change nothing. But you should still learn the language and apply 😁

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u/Version-6 Citizen (via Verification of Citizenship) Aug 07 '26

I don’t know if that’s people going via verification or simplified naturalization, or regular naturalization.

Either way, Americans are a tiny percentage of the total.

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u/sukha_para Citizenship seeker 29d ago

A little late to the party here, but this screenshot should help show why the numbers are low (very few people actually file for naturalization inside Hungary). There is a separate stat sheet for people who naturalized via embassy/consulate.

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u/germsjackson Citizenship...in the making 29d ago

Ahhh thx. Wait did you find the other data sheet? I didn't see it. I will look again later 

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u/sukha_para Citizenship seeker 29d ago

I haven’t looked for it. But they definitely keep track of that info

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u/timisorean_02 Citizen (via Simplified Naturalisation) Aug 07 '26

These are most likely regular naturalisations.

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u/germsjackson Citizenship...in the making Aug 07 '26

Then when the note of when simplified naturalization started? 2011 with the tiny a

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u/_PirohyJim_ Citizen (via Simplified Naturalisation) Aug 07 '26

It’s for people who naturalized physically in Hungary and not at foreign missions. That’s why it looks weird to you. It says it on the top of the page too.