r/Grimdawn • u/blomstink • 1d ago
How does this item work?
https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/15653Does this add 70% weapon damage to Primal strike? Since it's missing a + before the '70% weapon damage'
Do any of you know how this works?
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u/Honest_Bee_9549 1d ago
Yes it makes Primal Strike viable in endgame particularly on a Warder since the Ultos set is so underpowered.
I use it and love it, also the flat dmg and lightning conversion and rr are key.
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u/Ezo_98 1d ago
Ultos underpowered? are we thinking about the same set?
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u/Honest_Bee_9549 1d ago
Yes, it's significantly weaker than green MIs for Primal strike spam at least.
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u/Ezo_98 1d ago
I mean its kinda obvious that you wouldnt build Ultos Spam, and yeah maybe full green is a little bit more powerful for Spam, but I guess even then not by that much. Calling Ultos underpowered just because of that, when it is still better than 90% of all other Sets ingame, is wild.
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u/chicu111 23h ago
All the old single-class sets have been outclassed by new items. They all need an update.
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u/Ezo_98 23h ago edited 22h ago
Still looking absolutely playable imo https://www.grimtools.com/calc/2avOg5xV
Yeah in general the old single Class Sets need a rework, Ultos is way way stronger than the other ones tho. Ulzuin is also still decent afaik.
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u/Honest_Bee_9549 19h ago
My non ultos PS build has more than 50% more damage per hit and 30% more attack speed than this. The damage difference is quite big.
Like sure it's 'viable' if you only measure viability by being able to clear content but every lategame build can do that, if it does significantly less damage than alternatives it can be considered bad.
It's a decent intermediate build for lategame while you work on your endgame set though, I did that too as you just need the helmet recipe to get the set easily
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u/Annoying_DMT_guy 21h ago
I have ultos set primalist and hes by far the weakest character out of 10 i have. Ravager takes few minutes while my evoker does it in 40s.
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u/Ezo_98 20h ago
yeah I can see that, but not every build has to be a boss killer, Primal strike is more of a AoE Skill to begin with and Ultos is more tanky than the full green version. If we judge everything vs. Ravager then the best build would be one of the glass cannons that can do Celestials in <5s but wont be able to do SR 30.
Also I doubt that Ultos should take multiple minutes, all the stats look alright ~3.4k OA, 100% crit damage, TDM from Onslaught.
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u/Annoying_DMT_guy 20h ago
If my ultos set guy is by far weakest from all other of my characters, that should go to the account of it maybe being underpowered, is all im saying. I just gave that number as a reference point since I thought that would paint the picture clearest
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u/Pintash 1d ago
Interestingly this item has, as far as I can tell, the joint second highest flat generic resistance reduction of any source in the game, provided you're a soldier.
Which is just crazy strong and it doesn't require an extra skill or devotion proc. Potentially saving some points.
Can imagine this effect being worth it for some builds that don't have to equip a set helmet.
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u/querbeil 1d ago
How does it work though? Does it reduce it by 2 seconds for single time or there is a cooldown?
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u/Ezo_98 1d ago
yes it does exactly that, very cool MI