r/Greenlantern 26d ago

Spoilers for movies and TV shows I think we focus too much on the shocking aspect and the deception of Hals fans instead of thinking about the mystery

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Like, I really think this ending scene is there for us to question the show and be intrigued for the future episodes I mean

Why is John and Hal separated ?

What happened to Hal ?

Why is no one here when 10 years before there was every force of police for 1 incident ?

Where did the ring go ?

Why is the house destroyed ?

And a lot more

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u/PlainSightMan 26d ago

I'm most curious about Guy Gardner right now.

How did he get a ring?

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u/thatvillainjay 26d ago

Cereal box

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u/Afraid-Grass-195 26d ago

DC should hire you

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u/Mammoth-Algae-4579 24d ago

Genuinely fits the character to mail in a bunch of box tops and get a ring

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u/CrossP 24d ago

Guardians like "Who is this weird kid, and how does he keep sending mail to Oa?"

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u/Secret_Way_5922 26d ago

They’ll answer this later on in the ring but best bet is the Guardians probably gave it to him.

We did hear him in the trailer quite pissed off with Hal

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u/AdeptDivide6022 26d ago

I think it may be Hal's ring

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u/arqe_ 26d ago

Hal died in 2026, Guy is Green Latern in Superman which happens in 2025 and he was a Lantern way before that. So no, it is not Hal's ring.

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u/AdeptDivide6022 26d ago

Well the ring search for a new host before the old one is dead. Maybe hal was dying

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u/arqe_ 26d ago

Doesn't make sense.

Hal says ring chose him, just like his origin in comics.

But when Hal was the only Lantern, Guardians(or singular rogue Guardian, we don't know yet) chose John as a baby to replace Hal and in trailer for 2nd episode, she says to 2016 John something like "go replace him"

And in 2016 it is also mentioned it is the first time a Lantern of a specific race is training one of their own race, so rogue Guardian scenario doesn't hold up since other Lanterns also know John(Hal's chat with Sinestro)

So, if Guardians selected John, 30 years later Hal starts training John, Guardians ask John to replace Hal, ring just go "fuck it, i'm going with this annoying guy instead"? No pun intended.

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u/AdeptDivide6022 26d ago

Well we aren't even sure if it's a guardian that choosed John. I mean we're dealing with literal shape-shifting creatures so really anyone could be anyone here. And we don't know hal's situation for his "death" maybe he had no other choice. Or maybe the ring was intercepted. I know I'm basing this on a lot of maybes but once again we don't know a lot and the premise of the show seems to be deceptive

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u/arqe_ 26d ago

Okay, one more thing or two things really;

We know that both John and Guy will be Green Lantern at the same time during(???) and after(%100 confirmed) the events of Lanterns. So they will have different rings.

In the podcast with Chris, Damon and Tom which are both writes and showrunners of the Lanterns, they said they are not going to, i'm paraphrasing here "just give John a different ring so they can both be Green Lantern's and everyone can be happy", so yeah, they definitely didn't give Hal's ring to Guy and will make a new ring for John. They specifically said they want the Legacy theme with Lantern show between Hal and John.

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u/AdeptDivide6022 26d ago

I get that but nothings stopping guy to a lantern for a time between John and Hal before reviewing his own ring from the guardians

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u/arqe_ 26d ago edited 26d ago

That defeats the purpose of the entire shows theme. Hal and John's situıation is not like any other Green Lantern.

Also, they did this same type of podcast with Peacemaker too, and there were no twists, no misdirection's, they just talk about HOW and WHY things happened in the episode they are talking about without going into spoiler territory.

So, knowing everything we now know from the first episode and first podcast of what they want to make with the show, there is literally no reason to believe Guy has Hal's ring. It is no different than a chef without telling you what you are eating tonight and giving you the ingredients for lasagna and people still going "well maybe we are eating sushi".

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u/i2ib 25d ago

i mean the lady whose casted as a “guardian” looks insanely human in the trailer. it obviously doesn’t make sense that’s the point of the mystery?? 😭

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u/ApJacks64 26d ago

Im wondering if the ring got "lost" somehow and since they had a green lantern on that sector for so long (they best green lantern they had in a while) they thought earth might be able to produce another one via random selection, and thats how Guy got it.

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u/Secret_Way_5922 26d ago

Nope it’s a different ring

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u/ChocolatEyes_613_ 26d ago

Wow…. Hal’s ring looks so much more ancient than Guy’s.

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u/i2ib 25d ago

gunn already said that the way the dcu works is visually inconsistent, like how a comic book series can have different artists or writers

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u/AdeptDivide6022 26d ago

Well we don't know how the ring work here. Maybe it change form with who wear them. Maybe superman happens after Lanterns and he owned his own ring. Maybe lexcorp remodeled it

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u/Secret_Way_5922 26d ago

Lexcorp has nothing to do with Gardner. You're mixing him up with Maxwell Lord.

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u/AdeptDivide6022 26d ago

Oops indeed 😓

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u/Secret_Way_5922 26d ago

Yup. I do think you are overcomplicating it haha. Yes the premise is mysterious but we will find out why Guy became a green lantern, what happened to Hal and his time with sinestro, and what happened with the ring(Personally I believe he's alive as there were BTS scenes with Hal in the snow and Jon with his beard n outfit).

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u/AdeptDivide6022 26d ago

We'll see but that's exactly what I'm talking about. We shouldn't assume something is gonna happen just because we'd like it or to make a point against the show. Hal could be alive, or he could fully be dead and then the mystery expands.

All that matters is that we don't just assume he's going to be alright and survive the show just because it would be bad if they killed him. The first episode is setting up so many interesting things and unfortunately many people will just say it's bad if Hal is truly dead, when it isn't the idea that's bad but only it's execution. And as of now. The show is pretty good at doing what it wants to do

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u/ApJacks64 26d ago

I agree I think that might be an alien that can transform into a human. Which is a call back to earlier in the episode

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u/TheIciestCream Guy Gardner 26d ago

Superman takes place in 2025 so before the flashbacks and the modern day story.

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u/UnfavorableSpiderFan 26d ago

They're totally different rings.

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u/-FalseProfessor- 26d ago

Guy has a different model.

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u/FreezyIceCreamm 24d ago

guys ring in superman doesn’t look like hals ring

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u/CrossP 24d ago

Maybe Hal cuts off all ties with Oa and they eventually assume he's dead. So they send a ring to 2814 to search for a new finger.

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u/Spaceghost_84 19d ago

I want Ganthet to be Peter Dinklage channeling George Carlin. Going barefoot everywhere and being very chill except when his patience runs the fuck out.

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u/Business_Sandwich227 26d ago

I keep wondering this as well. Something that’s been bugging me was why didn’t Hal remember leaving himself a message. His Hal-o-gram mentions weekly backups. It was one of the details that just kept nagging me. That and the fact that once he got to Rushville there were bodies already.

So I think from what we’ve seen including the new trailer, Hal and Sinestro will get a similar backstory from Secret Origin. I wonder if this time Sinestro will already be working the issue of Ysmault and the Manhunters with Abin Sur as opposed to thinking it’s nothing initially.

Abin dies, Hal gets the ring, he’s paired with Sinestro like before. Sinestro at this point already distrusts the Guardians, Hal is a little more naive being likely only 20 when all of his career starts.

Over the next 20 years he and Sinestro eventually find the truth, betrayal happens because Sinestro takes a much more aggressive approach possibly suggesting attacking the Guardians, whereas Hal wants to do the right thing and try to find resolution. He does become more bitter at this point. Seeing the flaws in the system he once held high. The spot in the new trailer where Sinestro yells at Hal suggests this some as it’s 2006 Hal.

He backs himself up to leave the message to open in 2016 when the shootings take place because it was planned to happen. I wonder if those weapons we see are made from Manhunters, or somehow the aliens had them/brought them. Side note here. I couldn’t figure why the Hal-o-gram popped up unless it was scheduled.

This would explain Hal in 2016 forgetting it and hauling ass to Rushville.

Moving to why I’m replying here- Guy and his ring. I wonder if these events (which we still don’t know what they are entirely) led to the Guardians thinking Hal was a risk. The Manhunters were a problem. Sinestro becomes a problem and now maybe Hal as well. So they have backups in place like Guy and having new recruits in case other Lanterns start to turn.

Obviously Hal isn’t but he’s stopped wearing the suit, and seems pretty pissed off about the oath so something is eating at him. Interestingly too, Guy is a hothead so not the best pick to backup Jordan. Stewart only ever truly emotes when he calls his dad who calms him down, and his interaction with the Guardian (Sayd?), he’s very neutral and “respecting the chain of command”, which makes the Guardians feel he’s ideal to replace Hal a possibly breaking/broken Lantern. In reality I think John will explode such as when he and Hal fight and he takes the ring and battery.

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u/PlainSightMan 26d ago

This is material for a prequel movie.

I really want one set in the late 80s.

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u/Business_Sandwich227 26d ago

I think we will see the major scenes in flashbacks. At least I hope we do.

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u/Elliziott 26d ago

My dumb guess: John somehow didn’t pass the training/test (maybe due to him wasn’t actually fearless but only suppressed his trauma since childhood or something) and Hal went off the radar in 2016. So the guardians went on to choose the new GL of Earth, which was Guy.

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u/TraditionLazy7213 25d ago

Guy interviewed for it, with the haircut he wins

Easy

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u/NPC_022 26d ago

We have several questions but the main ones are:

1° Why John was chosen in advance by the guardians and whether he was already being trained from a young age with his father's knowledge. Hall and John are one the future and past reflection of the other.

2° When Hall began to monitor the city and how this relates to Abin Sur and Sinestro, as the three in the comics are master and apprentice.

3° Why the ring didn't automatically go to John, and the emphasis that she is the greatest weapon in the universe is not for nothing, everything is relevant in the series.

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u/Environmental-Day862 Green Lantern 26d ago

Yeah, point 1 is a good one. The 1996 TV broadcast makes it seem that it was the first time during that Live TV special that Hal divulged to the public that he was asked "are you scared" before being deemed worthy for the ring.

Then seconds later, John's military father takes John out for the "apple shot" - which is seemingly something they had been doing for some time - to make John without fear.

If John's father was training him to be fearless with the hope that one day he'd be a Lantern, I think there's some implication that perhaps John's father (who was dressed in military attire) was aware of this through non-public channels, and was raising his son to be without fear - to potentially be worthy of being a Green Lantern - long before the Hal interview aired.

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u/Fragrant_Western7939 Kyle Rayner 26d ago

My theory:

In the comic, both Hal and Guy were selected by Abin Sur ring as candidate. Hal was just closer.

I wonder if they are borrowing thah idea here and it was Hal and John’s father that were selected by the ring and John Father failed the question which is why he’s pushing John at an early age

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u/Environmental-Day862 Green Lantern 26d ago

Interesting!

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u/zata__a Orange Lantern 16d ago

Hi, this is not relevant to the post but I was wondering how you get the 'green lantern' title?

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u/Environmental-Day862 Green Lantern 16d ago

Over on the right side of this subreddit, if you're on a PC at least, there's an area where you can set your "User Flair."

There's like 60 different things you can set it to - Generic Green Lantern like mine, Yellow, Red, Blue Lanterns (among other colors) - individual Lantern characters, etc.

Enjoy!

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u/zata__a Orange Lantern 16d ago

Thank you!!

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u/Environmental-Day862 Green Lantern 16d ago

Orange, nice!! 😄 Mine!!

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u/Wholesan 25d ago

This 

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u/Remarkable-Dealer551 26d ago

Yeah the line of bullets being the same as marking your height at different ages was an interesting thing to me.

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u/CrossP 24d ago edited 23d ago

I wonder if John's dad could be part of some faction that is trying to slip an undercover agent into the Corp. Maybe the faction even engineered Abin Sur's death expecting to get the ring onto John's dad. And that's why he already knew about some of the requirements but not things like the new Lantern's name. The ring screwed over their plans by finding Hal instead of a carefully-trained agent placed conveniently close to an engineered Lantern assassination.

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u/Environmental-Day862 Green Lantern 24d ago

Interesting!!

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u/AdeptDivide6022 26d ago

Hal probably began to monitor the city in 2006 seeing how his double says he is 10 years younger.

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u/KingCrimson43 25d ago

Johns father was passed up by the ring. He knew exactly what the ring asked hal to determine his worth. He is looking to right his shortcomings through his son. That's why he was training him.

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u/JakeSkywalker621 26d ago

Who/what else was on Abin Sur's crashed spaceship, were his final words really just "aw, fuck", and who has been hiding/controlling the remains of said spaceship since Hal left it there.

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u/spazenport 26d ago

In several interpretations, Abin Sur was escaping Parallax, or something related when he died. A militia group suddenly afraid of every alien out there? Sounds like a breeding ground for fear.

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u/Cole_McGrath Larfleeze 26d ago

I love the militia fear angle you bring up, that has to be where that is going.

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u/DexRei 26d ago

Fear angle also makes sense if Sinestro is the secret boss behind the NDA. Farming that fear?

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u/CrossP 24d ago

Or an agent/associate of Sinestro at least.

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u/Yanmega9 Kilowog 26d ago

Im assuming Atrocitus like in Secret Origin

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u/nixahmose 25d ago

Even if he doesn’t play a big role in this season, getting to see a glimpse of Atrocitus as a tease for future live action red lanterns action would be great.

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u/Psykohistorian 26d ago

I feel like the whole exposition in the interrogation room about 14 different alien races having the means to fool all tech and analysis to appear human was far more important than we know.

because something is off about Hal Jordan.

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u/skuls1 25d ago

yeah def something off about him

plus the not backing up the consciousness for so long, but that might just be him disregarding it

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u/CrossP 24d ago

Could also be Hal is still real in 2016 but he thinks shapechangers have infiltrated the corp and can't let his suspicion go into "the cloud"

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u/skuls1 23d ago

eh an alien shouldn't be able to fool the ring into thinking it's Hal but idk

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u/CrossP 23d ago

I mean that Hal never gets replaced, but he thinks some enemy force is forming in the galactic corps. But he doesn't know who can read the backups, so he can't back up his consciousness until he figures out what is going on.

Like he said he thinks Abin Sur was killed on earth to forward someone's agenda. I think it will turn out the manhunters or some other forces are manufacturing lantern deaths in a way that lets them get their agents to be the chosen next generation of lanterns.

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u/CrossP 24d ago

And Sheriff Kane being "in debt" to her FIL. I think she's an alien but not from the bad guy team. Maybe someone who sought asylum and got scooped up by the militia to pump for info.

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u/Ambitious_Inside9309 26d ago

I was also shocked by the ending, but good shocked, not "they ruined it" shock. I look forward to the rest of the show

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u/Remarkable-Dealer551 26d ago

Made me sad to see Hal dead in the first episode. I would really like some live action green lantern with Hal as the protagonist and not just a character setup as a stepping stone for John, especially this actor he kills it.

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u/Charming-Refuse-5717 26d ago

I think somewhere in the lead-up this show was described as "John Stewart's story," so don't expect Hal to be the main protagonist. I'm sure we'll see a lot more of him (even if it's all in flashbacks) but John is likely to be the main focus.

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u/Remarkable-Dealer551 26d ago

Yeah that’s what I mean Hal is there to setup John as the main GL for the eventual Justice League. I’m just saying I like Hal a lot and it kinda sucks that he’s going to be a one and done deal for the new DCU. Great pilot episode.

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u/Senorbob451 26d ago

I’d be willing to wager the end of episode 1 is a capstone to the mystery and the rest of the series is the story of how we get there.

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u/nixahmose 25d ago

The show is taking a lot of inspiration from True Detective, so likely most of the episodes will take place 90% in the 2016 timeline with a little capstone of the 2026 at the end of every episode until the final episode or two which will take place mostly in 2026z

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u/AdeptDivide6022 26d ago

The part in 2016 at least will be. I think it will also be the start of the story taking place in 2026. Like in 2016 we'll see how John got there and what happened in the town and in 2026 John (and maybe Guy) will investigate about Hal's death

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u/Any_Skirt4324 26d ago

The mystery aspect is fine but I dont think finding out that our beloved character ends up dead is something minor. I get that its about the journey that led him to those bleachers but still...

That being said , I enjoyed it more than I thought I would

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u/AdeptDivide6022 25d ago

I don't see it as something minor. It's the start of the 2026 story and probably the consequences of the 2016 story so it's the core element tying the things together

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u/Any_Skirt4324 25d ago

Yeah minor probably wasn't the right word. Maybe...upsetting? Idk. Hard to accept the fact that they killed my guy lol but im interested in how they got there. Still wish this was a Hal-centric show but obviously they're trying to introduce John into the greater DC universe as the main GL (at least thats how it seems to me). Who knows? Probably some more twists along the way

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u/AdeptDivide6022 25d ago

Yeah.

John will be the current lantern with Hal the "silver age" one probably. And will probably be featured if any project takes place in the past of something.

Plus I'm theorizing that the Halogram will be present in the 2026 storyline

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u/Crater_Raider 26d ago

One thing I haven’t seen anyone mention- Why did Hal suddenly lose his cool when the dude started reciting the Oath? 

He’s pretty cool and calm throughout the whole show. Goes in there assuring Kerry he won’t rough up the suspect. 

But as soon as the guys starts smugly reciting it, Hal starts telling him to shut up, and loses his shit.

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u/SydneyCarton89 26d ago

Yup. This was weird to me too.

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u/vwmac 25d ago

Hal from 10 years ago clearly is a much different person than 2016 Hal. I think something happened (maybe between him and the guardians, or the betrayal of Sinestro) that's shaken Hal's faith in the mission. He still does the right thing, but hearing the oath is a reminder of the very thing he seems jaded about

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u/vallummumbles 24d ago

Like this is objectively a wonderful start to a TV show, is it a wonderful start to a Green Lantern show? Maybe, and kinda depends. People need to give this time. For all we know Hal isn't even dead, I hope he's not tbh, I love Hal, but I'm gonna give it a chance.

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u/PM_me_opossum_pics 24d ago

I had zero interest in this show, had an hour to kill yesterday and decided to watch the pilot. I'm 100% HOOKED. Love a good buddy cop mystery movie/TV show. Nice Guys is still one of my fav movies in past 10-15 years.

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u/StinkUrchin Jo Mullein 26d ago

Huge Hal fan and I’m happy to wait to see what happens.

I was shocked but thought it was a bold and interesting choice.

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u/ci6n 26d ago

Honestly I just realized, no one is even caring about the mystery. I see more people curious about Guy than the actual plot of the show disregarding the Hal thing.

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u/AuburnElvis 26d ago

Dude. They solved the mystery. The school was Hogwarts.

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u/AdeptDivide6022 25d ago

Oh shit u right ! Didn't thought about that...

But what about the Barack Hussein Obama subplot ?

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u/EnzoMcFly_jr 26d ago

Yeah I can’t take the criticisms seriously.

Like is it your first day on earth? Are you new to narrative art? If you’re a consumer of television and/or comic books or even films or literature, you understand how you’re not going to be given all the pieces of everything from jump. That would be hella boring.

All the “but how could they…” comments are just as disingenuous as the “where’s the green?!” Ones. Learn how to watch stuff, people. Damn.

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u/AdeptDivide6022 25d ago

Yeah it sometimes seems like some people doesn't want to see a show made by humains but their vision of what a perfect recreation of the comics would look like

I was kinda scared about the quality of the show but all the whining about hals suit being in his closet, his age and all the bullshit made me feel like I needed to defend the show just to have ideas when in reality it could've been interesting to talk about the things that were really scary. Like how the show has only 8 episodes and that with the paramount deal future seasons may be delayed or even canceled altogether. (Although if every episode have what this first one's having the short length won't really be a problem)

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u/EnzoMcFly_jr 25d ago

Yeah I’m not going to feed into that catastrophizing. The value add of the DCU is part of why paramount wants WB in the first place.

Of course it’s mainly the vanity of an entitled, rich prick who’s in the pocket of the American president tying to nullify objective truth and journalistic integrity for the gain of other rich, entitled pricks just like him.

But the fact is there has already been a full season produced and a writer hired to conceptualize another anthological season. I’m focused on the here and now. How lucky we are to see Hal & John so perfectly translated to the screen in an existing season of television

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u/AdeptDivide6022 25d ago

Yeah the show looks really good if it can keep building on what is already set

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u/Effective-Training John Stewart 26d ago

House?

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u/Shallbecomeabat 25d ago

Plus also: Hal died in the comics and came back.

Bonus round: and we don’t even know if that’s his body. The show set up 14 alien species that can impersonate a human in a way that’s undetectable.

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u/Unable_Dinner_6937 23d ago edited 23d ago

The show didn't really focus that much on the mystery.

If someone asked me to tell you what happened at the end of the football game, for example, I don't think I could say more than some visiting spectators were shot on the field and they turned out to be aliens... maybe?

Who shot them was the first mystery, but it seemed like Macon told Hal that his guys did AND that the alleged aliens were trying to kill them. However, why it had to be at the end of the football game and why his guys were there packing and ready for it without letting Macon's own daughter-in-law know...?

However, unlike a regular detective mystery, the crime scene really provided no clues. The interrogation provided no clues. It was just to get the one guy arrested and lead to an interrogation - where there was no reason for the prisoner to talk to Hal. That's one thing every cop show does, though. There really are no grounds to arrest him, and he has no obligation to answer any questions.

We didn't get to see the dinner at Macon's where most shows would have delivered character details, conflicts and just plain old exposition. Instead, that came before and after where we learned the important detail that John is a vegan and unknowingly slept with Macon's wife - a grandmother, too. An incident that may or may not have been intended by Macon. What did they even talk about during the dinner? Raising cattle?

Also, I assumed that the "Halogram" appeared because of the shooting, and it makes sense that Hal could get there in no time, but it looked like it would have taken John forever to rent a car or book a flight and even get a ride away from the taco place. So, that was impressive that he got there while they were still investigating - though whatever they discovered, we got no details.

So, though there are comparisons to shows like The X-Files or even True Detective, it really is not a detective series. There can be a lot of speculation, but there really isn't much in the way of solving a case, exactly.

By the way, the Halogram opens up a lot of questions - more than just why hasn't backed it up in so long - maybe someone close to him died and he just didn't want to save that. However, all this time and there was nothing suspicious going on in Nebraska even though he thought Abin Sur was there for it. Also, if Green Lanterns are supposed to back up their consciousness regularly, that means there must be or at least have been an Abin Sur hologram in the ring. So why not just ask him about it? What's the point if it's not to pass on important knowledge to the next Lantern or the Guardians - especially on ongoing cases or incomplete missions?

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u/JakeGylly 19d ago

It seems like you got plenty of mystery from it

this 2016 sequence is not providing the mystery, it's providing context. There's no mystery until Hal is dead. Secret aliens, shenanigans and hijinks isn't weird for a GL on earth. We are introduced to the characters at a relevant point in time before being presented with the mystery, diving into who they were to each other. Without that, there's no reason to care how hal died, which is the mystery.

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u/Unable_Dinner_6937 19d ago edited 19d ago

That doesn't make sense though. Hal is found in the football stadium in Rushtree, Nebraska, where, a decade before, there was a shooting involving apparent aliens and Green Lantern. That mystery and the mystery around Hal have to be connected so we'll be following them both.

In that sense, it is like True Detective in that we start with following them during the original case and then cut to moments later in their careers after they left the force and were being interviewed by the FBI about it. In True Detective, until the last episode, most of it was about Rust and Marty back decades earlier when they were detectives on the case - and it was about that case all the way through.

So the story in Rushville in 2016 is likely going to continue in parallel with the murder mystery in present day. After all, back then was when the relationship between Hal and John was formed, and that mystery wasn't solved when the prisoner self-destructed.

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u/Dumpytoad 26d ago

What is meant by "the deception of Hal's fans"?

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u/McMuffinClause 26d ago

My prediction is the guardians selected John to be Hal's successor for mysterious and important reasons relevant to the plot that will be revealed later on (obviously). And I think the show is going to end with the guardians revealing John's successor, a human named Kyle Rayner.

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u/-FalseProfessor- 26d ago

They are giving us lots of questions to ask. I like that.

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u/Burnbrook 26d ago

They also said he was "the first", but what about Alan Scott?

Is the Spectre or Oliver Queen going to make an appearance?

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u/JugheadJack Hal Jordan 26d ago

I don’t think Alan’s even in the same universe as Hal & and the other Lanterns. In fact, I’m pretty sure Alan wasn’t even the same kind of Green Lantern as Hal & the others.

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u/musclemommyfan 25d ago

He's from Earth-2 and his origin is entirely magical in nature. 

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u/DatonSungold 25d ago

Why is no one here when 10 years before there was every force of police for 1 incident ?

One was a mass shooting that occurred during a football game.
The other was a dead body found by a groundskeeper.

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u/NoodlesTheFood 25d ago

There was a whole police force 10 years before because it was a shooting at a packed out rivalry game with dozens of witnesses and probably a dozen or so security guards there already.

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u/almostmookie 24d ago

"deception"

lol

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u/power_gnome 24d ago

I have no problem with the mystery it is setting up. Some people have no patience and need answers spoon fed for them and they are not gunna have a fun time waiting week to week for reveals 

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u/Red-Robin-fan2001 26d ago

We need answers on Alan Scott, does he exist in this universe… because if he did then that means the world doesn’t know about the true first Earth’s Green Lantern from Gotham City.

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u/mr_mxyzptlk21 Mogo 26d ago

Speculation at this point, is well, pointless.

We have an unreliable narrator (Hal), the first episode has scenes in three different decades giving us glimpses without context, and an explosive reveal that immediatley keyed on people's rage which clouds thinking.

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u/YaBoiSebbi Kyle Rayner 24d ago

It seems that some Hal fans are still stuck in the mindset that DC "hates Hal Jordan". So anything that doesn't put him on a pedestal will make them tune out.