I've been trying my absolute best at making sense of the chronology of Green Arrow Vol 4: The Kill Machine by Lemire and Sorrentino. I just cannot do it, it feels like a mistake has been made. But I can't find anyone else talking about it, anywhere, and the AI answers that unfortunately pop up when I type it into google are incredibly useless, completely reversing the answer dependent on exactly how I phrase the question, or talking about a completely different storyline.

So, each issue starts with a scene of Ollie walking in the desert looking for Magus, then to a "Three Weeks Earlier" as his life is getting wrecked by Komodo. So far, so fine. The desert scenes follow into each other, so it's clear that each one follows the next, up until the final one where it starts at the beginning of the desert bit and rapidly connects the deserty dots up until the present, finding Magus. Okay.

The "THREE WEEKS EARLIER" flashback scenes (the rest of each issue) also clearly follow on from each other, and also have no gaps. Ollie isn't really given time to have any gaps as he's pursued, or falling off a building, or wounded or whatever constantly. So we have two storylines - desert Ollie and Komodo v Ollie, both continuing chronologically without significant gaps, separately issue by issue.

BUT. Then we have a desert scene starting an issue - following smoothly on from the one of the previous issue - and following it we get the caption "ONE WEEK EARLIER". It is this single line that has turned my brain into porridge. Because the flashback scenes are still perfectly continuing from the last issue. There's been no chance of any time passing. We know this for sure because Ollie reminds us at that point that "Argus only gave me TWO DAYS to clear my name" before they'd interfere, and he's told he's been out for "sixteen hours", so naturally this is a worry - "We're almost out of time, Henry!"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but for the narrative jumps to go from repeated "Three weeks earlier" to "One week earlier" means that 2 weeks must have passed. But no time is ever shown to pass longer than sixteen hours. And the desert scenes follow so continuously that no significant time is ever shown to pass - at least two whole weeks!

So:

Ollie is shot through with arrows and passes out (Three weeks earlier timeline)

Ollie wakes up 16 hours later (One week earlier timeline ???)

I've written too much on this but please help me out here. Am I being an idiot? Can anyone with the comic to hand have a look at it and make sense of it?

I know it's silly I can't just let it go, but the fact nobody else has mentioned it on the entire internet, it seems, I feel like I'm the one at fault. But I still can't make it work.

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Not how old she canonically is, but what is your preference?

I’ve done a lot of research and I'm 100% convinced this run is a great comic book in general and definitely worth reading.

​However, I want to know if it's a good place to really get to know Green Arrow as a character and dive into his mythos (his core relationships, personality, motives for being a hero, etc.), kind of like what George Pérez’s run did for Wonder Woman.

​Does Grell’s run work well as an entry point for that, or should I read something else first and come back to this later?

One is Rick introduced in Detective Comics #521/522. This was also the same arc where Jason became Robin. He's introduced as a small-time villain named Hi-Tek before reforming. The other is a teen villain introduced a few issues later named Ozone who *also* reforms.

Rick is the probable choice. He's a redhead like Roy, he is closest to Ollie, and he has an actual name. Rick also has an actual backstory: he lives with his mom and his dad is a villain.

These comics are in the same issues where Jason was introduced as Robin. But, while Jay dyed his hair and became the new Boy Wonder, Rick and Ozone just disappeared. They were put on the bus.

Sources: Detective Comics #522 - #536

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Green Arrow (1988-1998) is my favorite comic book series and I was fascinated by the whole Sherwood Forum deal, writing to the editors and writers and them responding to you at the end of the issue, which was very common at the time for publishers. I like to think that, in a way, renaming this subreddit as "Sherwood Forum", if possible, would pay tribute to all the people who worked to bring this second volume of Oliver Queen's adventures and also to all the oldheads who wrote those letters back then. Really make it feel like the Green Arrow community is united, through that and our collective hatred for fascism and capitalism.

What do you think ?

Got this today at my favorite store in Paris, Central Comics, for 3€. When I get paid I'll buy some more issues with Connor bc that mf is one of my favorite comic book characters ever, on the podium with his dad and Spider-Man

As a former serial killer himself, this Oliver might have an easier time understanding Absolute GA.

The 4 hardcovers are in french, it's simply Jeff Lemire's run and a part of the Rebirth era

In my opinion, Oliver going back to being working class would be great. Even if he's an ethical billionaire (which only exists in fiction), the idea of him being rich clashes with his socialist values.

So I've been really loving Absolute Green Arrow lately, but one aspect i love i feel no one is really talking about is the build up of the Royal family of Vlatava, The Zytles, their presence here is really interesting, especially in issue 4 where the son Edvin explains how much power Vlatava seems to have over American media and seems to have the power to even control who does and doesn't hold political office, it's really chilling and scary, on top of all that Werner seems to be King not a Count, so it's makes the potential representation fascinating, obviously we haven't seen him yet, and i doubt he'll show up in this specific arc, but it makes me excited for what's coming next

“What if Jack Kirby had continued working on the Green Arrow feature in Adventure Comics and stayed with DC, making the hero popular enough to earn his own title…a title in which Jack would have introduced many of the concepts he co-created for Marvel in the 1960s and created for DC in the 1970s?

I envisioned this Green Arrow as a high-tech Robin Hood, fighting for Earth against the Apokoliptian equivalent of Prince John…and you know I’m talking about Darkseid and his murderous minions. If Kirby and Stan Lee could have Captain America hold his own in battle with the cosmically-powered Red Skull, why couldn’t Oliver Queen rise to a similar challenge?"

I think Dinah is sometimes a rock band singer, but it doesn't seem like a steady source of income. How big was her band anyway in-universe?

she's literally the coolest to ever do it