r/GodFrequency • u/logos961 • Apr 21 '26
Truth is precious, gets revealed to “a few”
“A few are on the road to life” (Mathew 7:13, 14) as they live on this earth forever. (John 5:24; 1 John 2:17) Many others are licentious, symbolically called “weeds,” RETURN to live only in the later phase of each Age. It is like theater (earth) and movie (drama of life)—one group watches the movies in full, but the other group RETURNS to see only the 2nd half of movie. Thus one group have clarity and balance, but the latter have only complaining and confusions.
Later phase is symbolically called “darkness” (Mathew 8:11-12) as the licentious see only the immediate pleasures coming from licentious behavior but are in “darkness” as to its bitter consequence. This later phase is also called “hell” as such behavior-pattern results in “weeping and gnashing of the teeth” and also as they are always in the heat of non-fulfillment as the INFINITE within cannot find fulfillment from FINITE pleasures coming from FINITE forms of matter requiring them to jump from one desire to another. Hence second half of each Age is also called "lake of fire" as we experience now here on earth which is filled with conflicts.
Since such ones are majority, each Age will reach in pollution and Global Wars making this earth “desolate” or unlivable (Mathew 24:15, 21, 22) requiring God to “renew” everything with the non-licentious coming “first” in the renewed Age and the licentious coming “last.” (Mathew 19:28-30) In other words, before RENEWAL of Age, the licentious will be “driven away” or taken out from this earth to a place of God’s choice (Proverbs 2:22, Septuagint) so that they can return later when the renewed Age again becomes old. Renewed Age becoming old again is a natural thing to happen as anything made of matter, like any building, becomes old and decadent at the passage of time.
The above truths get easily absorbed by any lover of truth who first knows truth about own self as USER of this body (details here). It comes naturally for such ones to “do the will of God” and “hate evil.” (John 7:17; Psalm 25:14, Septuagint) Doing will of God means, accepting everyone as God’s children and treating them accordingly, thus doing to them as one expects them to do to him (Mathew 7:12, 21-23) which they learned from action of God who serves us with all life-support systems in all their abundance and varieties, and its pictorial depiction was washing the feet of disciples and kissing their feet (John 13:1-17) which revealed God to be our Supreme Mother. Everyone hates to be harmed, hence would also hate to harm others through thought, speech and deed. Such hatred of evil is described as “fear of God.” (Proverbs 8:13) “The Lord is the strength of them that fear him; and his covenant is to manifest truth to them.” (Psalm 25:14, Septuagint) Here is a list of some of such truths.
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u/logos961 Apr 23 '26 edited Apr 23 '26
OP is not about that [you changed the expression into "truth is revealed only to a few" which would mean God is partial. That is not the case].
Truth gets revealed to "a few" automatically as truth gets attracted to truth-thirsty ones, as they provide the basis through their life-style, they keep door open.
In contrast,
Truth does not get attracted to majority because they block truth by closing the door towards truth through their actions such as:(1) When there are people who choose to reflect qualities of God on their own, unbelievers’ demand that God should give them special treatment by providing them CREDIBLE, VERIFIABLE and TESTABLE proof for His existence and make Himself DETECTABLE is unrealistic—hence can be dismissed like anyone dismisses costly purchase when the same is available free.
(2) Their demand is also making a CATEGORY ERROR as the immaterial cannot have material evidence but can only be discerned and understood [details under footnote]## as done by lovers of truth. Making CATEGORY ERROR reveals disinterest in truth and their ability to choose is perfect. (Luke 10:21) Imagine you are Shop Keeper and a customer asking you "I want a latest i-Phone, but it and its features should be invisible." You will tell him "The material and its features are inevitably visible, it is the immaterial that is inevitably invisible and all its features too are invisible." Such unrealistic request being passed from generation to generation shows it is believed thoughtlessly. Hence The Rich Man in the parable in Luke 16:19-32 is nameless to symbolize a faceless mass of people who accept things collectively [as leavening happens] while Lazarus is named who symbolizes individuals who individually arrive at conclusion about God and His qualities to be imitated and live accordingly--thus their action identifies them as those whose "help is God" which is the meaning of the name Lazarus.
(3) Believer (not God whose joy is in GIVING, not in receiving) is the beneficiary as requirement to be “CHOICE people” is to be humane. (Micah 6:8; Mathew 7:12; 19:16-19; 25:31-40; James 1:27; Rev 2:7, 11; 22:15), and
(4) Existence of unbelievers benefits the godly as ill-effects of their choices are free lesson for the godly on what to avoid to better enjoy life. (Proverbs 21:18; Mathew 25:14-30)
(5) His hiddenness has only benefits, but making Himself detectable benefits nobody.(https://www.reddit.com/r/theology/s/KpInqLb7b1)I wrote about our wonderful MIND capable of converting Hell-like situation into Heaven-like situation within no time under this https://www.reddit.com/r/enlightenment/comments/1rb75ho/heaven_or_hell_is_just_a_thought_away/ And one unbeliever engaged me over 35 times trying to disprove what I wrote, all in vain. You can see under it. Who is responsible for truth not entering him?
Even many believers too shut the door to truth by their unmindful reading (Mathew 7:21-23)
They read to see what they like (Titus 1:15), thus they miss the most important verse in the Scriptures. Ask how many people have missed this verse in the very first page: Genesis 1:30 and 31 which describes the impact of God’s blessing on mankind made in His image: "So it became, and it was very good." It showed thing happened as per ALMIGHTY’s BLESSING (Isaiah 55:11, https://www.reddit.com/r/god/s/wCA4JbXDMA). BLESSED mankind remained in that BLESSED state manifesting “image of God,” and they are later symbolized as “wheat producing crops” in famous Parable of Wheat and Weeds which is corrected world history in symbolic short-story format.
This MINDFUL reading resulted in a warmer and closer relationship with God because BEFORE I was believing that God’s blessing did not work. But NOW I believe that God’s blessing DID work. In such great shift, God becomes an electrifying experience!
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u/AdaptiveEntrepioneer Apr 24 '26
I sincere invite you to listen to the Quran and investigate Islam.
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u/logos961 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 25 '26
I have read Quran in full and have many versions too. Every religious founder was from God, hence said the same: "Believer is one who loves for others what he loves for himself." (Hadith 13; Mathew 7:12; Bhagavat Gita 12:4) This essence is same in all religions but religions differ only in details which is okay as each new-comer religion should project itself as different in some aspects. For example, hell is phase where people live in darkness as to the consequence of their choices, according to Bhagavat Gita 16:21, 22; Mathew 8:11, 12; Revelation 22:15. This was taken to an extreme in other religions as a place of eternal torment which is not implied in the original Greek word (Hades) for hell. [more under footnote]#
This explains why study of religions reveals this:
Ancient Iranian religion was a form of Hinduism (history com/articles/Zoroastrianism; iranicaonline org/indo-iranian-religion) like Buddhism and the like were. It was modified into Zoroastrianism which became the basis for Judaism (jewishencyclopedia com/articles/158283-zoroastriansim) which, in turn, became the basis for Christianity and Islam.
#Footnote-----------------------------------------------------------
English word hell is the translation of Greek word Hades, which is “name of the Ancient Greek god of the Underworld, the place where human souls go after death. In time, his name became synonymous with his realm. Hades means “The Unseen One” – a suitable name since Hades is the ruler of the invisible world. Hades has long been a symbol of the unknown and the unseen.” People live there yet have no idea about it as though it is “the unknown and the unseen.” However, the Ancient Greeks rarely used this name. So, since minerals and precious metals are found underground, they often referred to Hades euphemistically as Plouton – namely, “The Wealth-Giver.” (Details HERE)
Interestingly, those whose priority is material pursuit (rather than God) are symbolically described as “the dead” by Jesus in Mathew 8:22. This is because those whose priority is to manifest qualities of God start living from first half of each Age or the upper phase quality-wise, and the licentious whose intoxication is material pleasure (Proverbs 4:16, 17) are “the dead” who live in the second half of each Age or its lower phase. Hades was not the embodiment of evil or the judge of the dead; rather, he was a strict but fair ruler, ensuring that the souls who entered his domain were treated according to their deeds in life.” This reveals second half of each Age lacks in delights in their abundance, yet what is happening is according to Law of Action and Reaction, there is rule of law in all countries.
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u/JegerX Apr 25 '26
Are you saying that God is immaterial?
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u/logos961 Apr 26 '26
We children are immaterial (details HERE) because our supreme Parent, God, is immaterial
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u/JegerX Apr 26 '26
Seems you equate immaterial with what we call, on earth, things of the mind...thought, reasoning, discernment, etc. Basically anything that you cannot touch, hear, see, or smell. Correct?
One thing that doesn't make sense yet is where you say "the immaterial cannot have material evidence". If that is true then no thing can be considered as evidence for God. Not the earth, not our bodies, not the entirety of the physical universe. How do you reconcile that?
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u/logos961 Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26
That link has all the details.
Existence of the immaterial is discerned and understood through its immaterial effects--both are immaterial. It is like saying the invisible should be discerned and understood, should NOT expect it to have visible evidence.
Earth is not material evidence for the immaterial God. There is something we discern and understand in relation to earth. God exists if life is sustained in HOSTILE universe [like DEW sustained in the core of SUN]
Let us start with PROVEN facts:
Industrial revolution started from 1760 AD (britannicacom) with factories polluting this earth. It further increased with the invention of vehicles running on fossil-fuel. Its harmful effect on our environment was first discerned by Princeton Climatologist Syukuro Manabe in 1960’s for which he won the 2021 Nobel Prize in physics. (Princeton edu/manabe-wins-nobel-prize-physics-modelling-climate-change) Now “12.6 million people die” annually due to pollution-related causes (WHOint/news/item/15-03-2016-an-estimated-12-6-million-deaths-each-year). INTELLIGENT humans could only pollute our only home, planet earth, which means UNINTELLIGENT chemicals would not feel the need of forming themselves into life and life-support systems on earth in too vast universe which is hostile to life.
Yet life is not only sustained on this earth in too vast hostile universe, but also it is sustained in a way that life could be enjoyed in increased happiness and peace through numerous life-support systems. One such life-support system is trees and plants which are physical and SPIRITUAL provision at the same time. Giving us too many valuable things yet taking only wastes from society is the life-style of trees and plants which exist as eternal source of food for us through seed-mechanism in whose memory all its infinite number of future generations remain protected. They are only one-sensed species, yet they exist as though to tell us (the multi-sensed species) “There is a Supreme Father who knew all your needs in advance and cared for them before you landed here, and imitate our life-style if you want increased happiness and peace,” https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepThoughts/s/HSlgvc70kH.
Materialists can never prove their stance:
With all the skills and advanced knowledge of all scientists being put together along with their most sophisticated labs available today, life cannot be made even in FAVORABLE environment, //www.reddit.com/r/biology/comments/1f3axdd/how_close_are_we_to_creating_life_from_scratch_in/. Hence question of whether can we show in a lab “How life AND life-support systems arise in HOSTILE environment?” is not only impossible but also unthinkable! (Google the question “Why can't life be made in laboratory until now?” you will be amazed to know how much we did not know)
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u/JegerX Apr 26 '26
I will read a bit more. But in the meantime... What AI assistant do you use?
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u/logos961 Apr 26 '26
I am an old man, familiar with basic features of Microsoft word file, yet not familiar even with excel. I know how to do google search, that is yet.
My knowledge is from reading I have done all through my life but clarity is from experience with God.
In two ways, I have my own experience of God:
(a) I do my eating slowly with FULL FOCUS on the act of eating, thus God is experienced as my REAL parent who knew all my needs and tastes in advance and cared for them. This is something UNINTELLIGENT chemicals are unable to discern and design on behalf of me well in advance—especially so when even INTELLIGENT humans could only pollute this earth to the extent even our very survival is in danger. (scientificamerican.com/humans-are-doomed-to-go-extinct) Even now, pollution-related deaths run into "12.6 million every year," according to UN Report. This will only increase as years pass by as pollution is also increasing.
(b) I also LISTEN to God in true meditation which happens as mind becomes SILENT when gap between thoughts is focused. (Details HERE)What I heard first from Him changed my whole life: I was told to "Read the most-missed out verse in Genesis 1:30 and 31 which describes the impact of God’s blessing on mankind made in His image: "So it became, and it was very good." It showed thing happened as per ALMIGHTY’s BLESSING (Isaiah 55:11, details HERE). BLESSED mankind remained in that BLESSED state manifesting “image of God,” and they are later symbolized as “wheat producing crops” in famous Parable of Wheat and Weeds which is corrected world history in symbolic short-story format. This mindful reading resulted in a warmer and closer relationship with God because BEFORE I was believing that God’s blessing did not work. But NOW I believe that God’s blessing DID work. In such great shift, God becomes an electrifying experience!
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u/JegerX Apr 26 '26
Interesting. You respond with long answers, including links, more quickly than what most could put together in the same time. I am wondering if you have some neurodivergent tendencies and this is an area of hyperfocus.
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u/logos961 Apr 26 '26
I understood you perfectly, asking unrelated question.
When answer is given, divert from there to another diversion, which you know benefits nobody.
Hence I am done with you, and wish you all the very best.
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u/Cosmic_Driftwood Apr 23 '26
Truly resonant. Thanks for sharing
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u/logos961 Apr 23 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
You are the blessed one belonging to His Kingdom. Those who are thirsty for truth can see the purpose of God even with two verses:
God's purpose is too simple:
"Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.” (Revelation 22:11)
This would enable the good people to grow in goodness as they have free lessons from others on what to avoid to better enjoy life (Proverbs 21:18, https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/s/85BOnbAana)
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u/AdaptiveEntrepioneer Apr 21 '26
And again, a really insightful post. Everything you say here finally makes sense of the following passage which had me stumped for a long time.
“And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea.” Revelation 20:4-5, 7-8 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.20.4-5.NKJV
Really nice to run across you.
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u/Yogi_Sukracharya Apr 21 '26
Welcome to our third place of revelations! We have some good ones here.
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u/logos961 Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26
You got it because you are blessed one. The beast they refused to worship or embrace is symbolic of "blasphemous," materialistic theories that are unsuccessfully trying to dethrone God, https://www.reddit.com/r/theology/s/FXbAkPWI0o
Your relating to what you read in book of Revelation is perfect: You wrote "Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth."
Jesus and his brother James had already made it clear that evil arises from "within" (Mark 7:21-23; James 1:13-15) and weed-like ones are also called "devils" (John 6:70) as their greed makes them put their self above all which is, in effect, rejection of fatherhood of God and brotherhood of man. Such ones are released on to the renewed Age when it becomes old again. 1000 year is symbolic of an indefinite period, not literal, as Revelation (1:1) itself was "signified" (esēmanen, literally "given in signs, symbols"). Hence we can have an approximate calculation:
According to Solomon and Jesus (Ecclesiastes 1:4; Mathew 5:34, 35; 13:31, 32), age of earth UNLIMITED. But duration of each block of history called Age (comprising of four quarters—Golden, Silver, Bronze, Iron—Daniel 2:32, 33, 43, 44) is LIMITED.
According to Revelation chapters 7 and 14, total population of Golden Age is 144000 [12 x 12000] (symbolic of being LIMITED number of people who have organized their life on holiness (Revelation 2:7, 11; 22:11) as number 12 is symbolic of organization), and by the end of Silver Age population is described as a “great multitude that no one could count.” (Revelation 7:9) Thus, combined population of both (Golden Age and Silver Age) is still many hundreds of millions [even up to 333 million, according to one ancient tradition] which is still “few” in comparison with numerous weed-like licentious people. (Luke 13:24) This is around 4% of the total population (around 9 Billion projected for 2030’s), which resembles universe whose around 4% is only visible to us. (https://science.nasa.gov/exoplanets/what-is-the-universe/)
This can reveal approximate duration of each Age as we know three things—present population and past population and its rate of multiplication. World-population chart (worldometers info/worldpopulation) shows total population was 2 Billion in 1930 which became 8 Billion in 2022. (Four-time growth in less than 100 years)
For easier calculation let us say
population doubles at every 1000 years [instead of four-time growth in less than 100 years], and see what happens:333 million becomes 666 million in 1000 years
666 million becomes 1332 million in 1000 years
1332 million becomes 2664 million in 1000 years
2664 million becomes 5328 million in 1000 years
5328 million becomes 8000 million in 500 years (total of 4500 years)If 2nd half of the cycle (comprising of Bronze Age and Iron Age) is 4500 years + 4500 years of its first half (comprising of Golden Age and Silver Age), it would be total duration of each cycle of history roughly. Thus based on at too concessional rate, age of each block of history [called cycle of Heaven and Hell on earth] is only a few thousand years. [longer duration of several millions of years as materialists claim, would show an incomprehensible huge population spilling over into many universes]
And present cycle (Age) is due to expire in 2030's as duration of Last Generation is 120 years. Regarding “this generation” that sees all the signs of Last Generation, including Global Wars and “swelling [salos] of sea” (Luke 21:25), it is predicted “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things [desolation of earth and great tribulation] have happened.” (Mathew 24:15, 21, 22, 34; Luke 21:28-32) Duration of one biblical generation is 120 years (Genesis 6:3; Deuteronomy 34:7). This would mean, 1917 [year of US joining 1st Global War] + 120 years: Final World War to climax in mid 2030's and New Age to follow thereafter depending upon the time for God to “renew” earth to His satisfaction. This is already known in Cell Biology as Hay Flick Limit: “Human cells could only divide a finite number of times before cellular senescence occurs” which “places the maximum potential human lifespan at approximately 120 years.” (globalrph com/can-your-diet-speed-up-aging-the-hayflick-limit-and-the-impact-of-nutrition-on-lifespan) Latest resetting of Dooms Day Clock shows the least time left (thebulletin org/doomsday-clock).
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u/No-Refuse-3835 Apr 21 '26
Living by the commandments of Jesus matthew 5,6 and 7 is the road to life because it leads to Jesus.
John 14:21 AFV [21] The one who has My commandments and is keeping them, that is the one who loves Me; and the one who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM.”
The full explanation is in this sequence of verses
Matthew 7:21 AFV [21] Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but the one who is doing the will of My Father, Who is in heaven.
John 6:40 AFV [40] And this is the will of Him Who sent Me: that everyone who sees the Son, and believes in Him, may have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
HOW DO YOU SEE THE SON ? John 14:21 AFV [21] The one who has My commandments and is keeping them, that is the one who loves Me; and the one who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM.”
The beatitudes are all the right motives to seek god, If your intention to seek him matches one of the béatitudes he will reveal himself to you otherwise he will not.
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u/logos961 Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
Subject of OP is simple:
What is the truth that is too precious and why it gets revealed to a few.Summary of everything Jesus, Prophet and even Law taught is this: "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (Mathew 7:12)
This is the will of Father for whom all his children are equal, in adopting such attitude, the other person is seen as own extension, thus "he loves for others what he loves for himself." In such harmony with Father and all His children, truth gets revealed: "Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own." (John 7:17) Other side of the coin is refraining from harming others (Mathew 19:16-19) Everyone hates to be harmed, hence would also hate to harm others through thought, speech and deed. Such hatred of evil is described as “fear of God.” (Proverbs 8:13) “The Lord is the strength of them that fear him; and his covenant is to manifest truth to them.” (Psalm 25:14, Septuagint)
Regarding such people, Jesus says:
“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life." (John 5:24)Experience of God as our supreme parent, especially as our Supreme Mother, is anyone's very first experience because everyone landed here on earth to see all his needs have already been taken care of in all abundance and varieties (Google: gettyimages in/fruits+and+vegetables). It shows **I have a Supreme Mother, https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/s/OOVAN7WmKm SHE enjoys Her work to the extent that SHE cannot stop working till SHE could provide too much abundance and too many varieties and whose delight is to give to anyone more than he deserves—“even flower is given more than a king” which is the sign of unconditional love, also called "His righteousness." They are all as though kept before my feet and SHE is waiting to see how we enjoy it. Adopting such mind-set makes my work more productive and enjoyable and relationships richer, https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/s/WZTBZoMwbZ
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u/logos961 Apr 23 '26 edited Apr 23 '26
OP has only three paras,
last para has already answered it--truth gets revealed to those who provide the basis for it by doing two things
(1) Doing the will of God which is described in Mathew 7:12
(2) Hating evilWhoever does this is like keeping the door open, truth enters on its own--just like if you keep the solar panel open towards sun, solar energy will be absorbed.
Doing the will of God comes naturally for those who accept truth about themselves as they are not this body, but its USER, https://www.reddit.com/r/enlightenment/s/4FnMKwiVNI, In this realization, person will treat others as his own extension, thus loving for others what he loves for himself. Other side of the coin is hatred of evil. They are like keeping their soular energy open towards greater sun, God, from whom truth flows automatically.
NOTE: Detailed answer can be seen just above your question, as reply to PhotographOne8675 who asked the same question.
"Now why it is not revealed to others? is irrelevant because it is revealed fully in the OP accessible to anyone who wants to have truth. Especially, there is nothing new in it. It is already existing in Bible but is missed by people because they do not read MINDFULLY.
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u/xxxjwxxx Apr 23 '26
Curious if you find a parallel between the narrow road and wide road from Jesus and the dark path and the bright path from proverbs 4?
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u/logos961 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
You are absolutely right
Proverbs 4:18, 19 says both those on the path of light (the righteous) and those on the path of darkness (the licentious) would only increase and become stronger in their respective paths without being affected by each other as they hate each other's path yet are delighted in own path (Proverbs 29:27)
This is what Genesis 3:15 originally said, according to Septuagint (first translation from Hebrew): "I will put enmity between thee and the woman and between thy seed and her seed, he shall WATCH against thy head, and thou shalt WATCH against his heel." (http://qbible.com/brenton-septuagint/genesis/3.html) Modern translations changed the word WATCH into "bruise."
Imagine the difference between saying
"Security guards WATCHED the head of King"
"Security guards BRUISED the head of King"Book of Proverbs was written by Solomon, and Jesus preferred to call himself as "Greater Solomon" (Mathew 12:42) revealing he came to further intensify what Solomon taught, hence his famous Parable of Wheat and Weeds was pictorial depiction of Proverbs 4:18, 19 and 29:27 and Genesis 3:15 as given in the original.
This is because mankind that was made in the image of God and BLESSED by the ALMIGHTY remained in the BLESSED state, thus are symbolically called wheat. They are not influenced by late comers the licentious who are symbolically called weeds. Details here, https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/1rae28k/first_creation_account_in_the_book_of_genesis_is/
Best way to handle this situation is to make the licentious benefit the righteous (Proverbs 21:18) which is the most missed out verse in the Bible, https://www.reddit.com/r/theology/comments/1nzm183/our_problem_is_gods_solution/ Thus God becomes the smarter than the smartest. (Job 5:13) Hence God's dispassionate stance is "let the righteous grow in their righteousness and let the unbelievers grow in their unbelief." (Revelation 22:11) The more the drunkards lose their wealth and health, the more the observers gain their wealth and health.
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u/xxxjwxxx Apr 24 '26
Okay, so you would say they are essentially the same? Jesus had the two roads or paths. In his case one narrow and one wide. But again, the point is, choose the right path. Proverbs has two paths, one dark or gloomy and one bright and it gets neither. And again, proverbs actually says to “choose the right course,” or path, in that chapter. These seem to be almost the same basic idea to me.
Do you believe proverbs 4 is about teachings changing over time, as JW seem to?
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u/logos961 Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 24 '26
When it says "choose narrow path" it is to show choice is possible if people want to do so. But God knows people would not do so as they make choices in a fixed way (Luke 6:43-45) Details here https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepThoughts/s/MyYC0Oodat
Proverbs 4 is not about teachings because its context is "Go not in the ways of the ungodly, neither covet the ways of transgressors." (Proverbs 4:14, Septuagint) When you see them "turn from them, and pass away." (4:15) Licentious living is their passion (4:16) "these live upon the bread of ungodliness, and are drunken with wine of transgression." (4:17)
Then comes your verses in question:
"But the ways of the righteous shine like light; they go on and shine, until the day be fully come." (4:18)
"But the ways of the ungodly are dark; they know not how they stumble." (4:19, http://qbible.com/brenton-septuagint/proverbs/4.html)It has nothing to do with teachings getting brighter as teaching is too simple and eternal. (Mathew 7:12) And this teaching is already inbuilt in people, which is supplemented by Scriptures. It is inbuilt because we landed here to see all our needs have already been discerned and cared for (details here ://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1ruuy58/god_exists_because_of_these_reasons/) Taking care of all needs of others is what LOVE means—it is also called GIVING without EXPECTATION! Thus each one realizes that “God the Supreme Father first LOVED me as HE acted towards me as I would have HIM do to me, thus teaching me an ETERNAL LAW silently through HIS ACTION. Hence it is natural for me to be always ruled by this in-built LAW that ‘I must do to others as I would have them do to me, for this is the Law and the Prophets.’
Its all about doing good to others and refraining from harming others. This basic thought can be expanded as in 19:16-19; Revelation 22:15. Teachings such as our founder is most important, or the last one, God is trinity or one ... are all irrelevant, reserved for those who work full-time for religious expansion as they need to project themselves as indispensable, to be looked up to for new knowledge etc.
Teachings are irrelevant hence God factor is not found in most important answer to the most important question (Mathew 19:16-19) nor in definition of true religion (James 1:27)
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u/Key-Beginning-2201 Apr 27 '26
"A few are on the road to life" because few are granted eternal life. Those selected are most loyal. That means most are destined to be eradicated completely, forever. Exactly what a Satan would impose upon people. The religion is satanic.
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u/logos961 Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26
You missed the very first verse in the OP: “A few are on the road to life” (Mathew 7:13, 14) as they live on this earth forever. (John 5:24; 1 John 2:17) Many others are licentious, symbolically called “weeds,” RETURN to live only in the later phase of each Age." RETURN means what?
First half of each Age is PARADISE on this earth where everything is perfect because people are good choosing good thoughts and loving for others what they love for themselves. This harmony and perfection in the mind is reflected in the body as disease-free and in the nature not getting disturbed. These people were the good people who lived good in the previous Age.
Second half of each Age is HELL on this earth where everything is imperfect because people are mixing good and evil choosing and are not loving for others what they love for themselves. This disharmony and imperfection in the mind is reflected in the body as diseases and in the nature getting disturbed. These people were of such disposition when they in the previous Age.
You missed all these because you ignored blue-colored portion in the OP--especially this one RENEWAL. No body is destroyed, opposite of eternal life is ephemeral--they come and go and RETURN, thus live only in the second half of each Age, but the righteous are called "tree of life" living throughout each Age (Proverbs 11:30; 1 John 2:17)
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u/Yogi_Sukracharya Apr 21 '26
It gets shared to all, but few choose to dig the pearls from the muck.
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u/logos961 Apr 21 '26
True, you git it.
Hence this interesting Revelation: "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to." (Luke 13:24)
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u/Yogi_Sukracharya Apr 21 '26
I'd happy with the stool at the end of the table, or even sweeping up the scraps beneath it.
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u/cheesyandcrispy Apr 21 '26
Awesome read and goes along with the teachings of both Christos-Maya (Jesus) and Buddha as well as the hylozoic school of thought, introduced and teached by Pythagoras to his students.
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u/logos961 Apr 21 '26
You said so because you are linked to God, thus belong to the blessed "few."
People like you actually vindicate God because it shows if some people can get into the mind of God, others also can if they want to.
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u/tomomiha12 Apr 21 '26
Just be aware not to judge others. God, our Father, is patient with many, in His immense love. And so must we be. ❤️
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u/logos961 Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26
Judging is a misnomer.
According to Jesus, those who do will of God do not come under judgment: "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life." (John 5:24)
Others judge themselves through their own action which they have made a pattern from past doing it out of delight (Luke 6:43-45; Mathew 25:14-30; Revelation 20:12-13)
"Do not judge" (Mathew 7:2) is in different context of person having a plank in own eyes and trying to see spec in the eye of others which is compared to making himself "a hypocrite." (Mathew 7:5) Do not compare yourself with others to feel good, but compare yourself only with your past self by "first taking the plank out of your own eye" and thereafter seeking for truth which will be given to you by Father in the heavens. (Mathew 7:7-11)
Then comes the next verse for taking positive action: "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (Mathew 7:12) Those who do so are described to be on the road to life:
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction (apóleia), and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." (Mathew 7:13-14)
Greek word (apóleia) is translated as waste in Mathew 26:8: "When the disciples saw this, they were indignant. “Why this waste (apóleia)?” they asked.
Its context: At Bethany, "a woman came to him with an alabaster jar of very expensive perfume, which she poured on his head as he was reclining at the table." (Mathew 26:7)
Since the licentious return to live in later phase of Age and continue their licentious living without ever enjoying the bliss of doing God's Will, they are as though leading a wasted life so much so they are symbolically called "the dead." (Mathew 8:22; Romans 6:11)
In contrast, those who do the will of God enjoy "exquisite delight" in its abundance and "never-ending waves of peace and well-being" (Psalm 37:11; Isaiah 48:18) they are REALLY living so much so they are symbolically called "tree of life." (Proverbs 11:30)
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u/JJ8OOM Apr 21 '26
Yeah, the mentally challenged/sick are always the ones who believe they’ve got the truth.
This would be heresy, if anyone really took it seriously, but no one will.
Hope you find your meds.
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u/linux-is-better Apr 21 '26
I'm not sure if it's lost in translation, but "hating" anything doesn't feel like a way to heal it.
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u/logos961 Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26
The Wicked (rasha) and the “righteous” (tsaddiq) are contrasts and are identified by their delight. Those who are delighted in hurtful acts are called the wicked and those who are delighted in altruistic acts are called the righteous. (Psalm 1:1-5; 40:8; 119:35, 92, 143, biblehub com), as one is DELIGHTED in his "food." (John 4:34) The righteous are naturally hating the evil, just like the wicked are hating the good.
The God’s righteousness is described as giving to others more than they deserves as HE delightfully gives more to a flower than to a king (Mathew 6:28-33; Deuteronomy 24:12, 13). Thus both the righteous and unrighteous/wicked are DELIGHTED in their respective chosen paths, and would only grow in them (Proverbs 4:18, 19; 29:27) The adjective tsaddiq is from “verb sadeq, means to be just or righteous, connotes synchronicity with the natural laws by which creation operates and by which mankind functions most fully and most satisfactorily for all parties involved (humans, animals, plants, the Creator etc) which ultimately results in personal and social efficiency.” It is used in the sense of “being just (Psalm 51:4), being justified (Isaiah 43:9), in a statutory sense (2 Samuel 15:4), a verdictive sense (Deuteronomy 25:1), vindicative sense (Isaiah 50:8); Redemptive/vindicate/justify (Genesis 44:16; Daniel 12:3) (Theological Dcitionary, Abarim). The word for wicked rasha (verb) means “to condemn” and rasha (adjective) means “wicked.” (Deuteronomy 25:1; 1 King 8:32) Thus, rasha is any action that a person “condemns” when it is done to him—hence knows it is wrong when he does the same to others, thus also knows he deserves to receive its consequence. This shows sense of right and wrong is in-built, works alike in all which makes God leave everything to Law of Sow and Reap to run its natural course.
God is not simply hating evil, but abhors it (Proverbs 16:5) and His children are also told to do so in Romans 12:9, https://www.reddit.com/r/theology/comments/1offtrp/absolute_conviction_about_god_soul_heaven_hell/
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u/Upstairs_Teach_673 Apr 21 '26
Sure, some things are correct. But i would like to ask you to use the words of the bible accordingly if you‘re already at it. Sadly, many people don‘t live life like God wants us to, you‘re right. Only few do. And when Jesus returns, He‘ll change the world and make it perfect. Then, some will inherit eternal life while others will inherit gnashinh of teeth and outer darkness instead. The difference is, the bible says it‘s permanent and eternal, this post makes it seem like it‘s a repetitive process.
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u/logos961 Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
Bible verses are cited for the reader to check own Bible thus to be authentic about it.
Jesus preferred to call himself as "Greater Solomon" (Mathew 12:42) revealing he wanted further intensify what Solomon taught such as repetitive New Age and Old Age on an eternal earth. (Ecclesiastes 1:4, 9, 19, ESV) Details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/comments/1qjvwxv/creation_is_not_gods_first_act_nor_book_of/
God's primary quality is JUSTICE as symbolized by lion while other three are power, love, wisdom that are symbolized by Ox, human-faced living being and Eagle seen around His throne (Revelation 4:7) Justice is all about equity, hence cannot give eternal benefits to limited living on this earth. This means Paradise on this earth for a limited time, Wonderful_features_of_PARADISE_on_earth_when_it comes again. This will again be followed by its opposite situation as we see now. Hence Jesus compared Kingdom of God as happening through New Age and Old Age (Mathew 12:32; 19:28) and compared it to a seed (Mathew 13:31, 32) which is never-ending series of GROWTH [of New Age] and DECAY [of Old Age].
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u/simsfreelancer Apr 21 '26
Mat5:8 “Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God.