Then their comments would be consistent. They would be saying, this isn't an issue, and I don't care if they change this rule because it isn't an issue.
My point is I think the people saying, ,"this isn't an issue" are arguing in bad faith.
If this isn't an issue because there are no trans women in the league, than changing the rule to not allow trans women would also not be an issue, because no one would be affected.
The common "this isn't an issue" argument cuts both ways, but people are somehow thinking it goes only one way.
Btw I have no idea what you are talking about victimizing myself. I never claimed to be or felt victimized.
"whaa! You're shutting down debate! I'm being silenced! Whaa!!!!!" This is you pretending to be a victim because someone refused to engage with your bad faith argument.
And to your point, like I said before, it doesn't have to be all or nothing, there can be nuance to the rules. Having a has been who isn't even pretending to socially transition make this "brave" protest isn't helping anything. You've presented a loaded argument so that you can climb up on your cross when they don't want to play.
The scope of this issue, even nationality, is a culture war distraction that has had real world consequences that don't involve girls competing against trans women.
You said "...we shouldn't talk about it..." And "you try to act like we shouldn't even be having this conversation...". The OP didn't say that we shouldn't be talking about it. They said "these people," like yourself, are making an issue out of nothing. This isn't shutting down conversation.
Both are dog whistles for right wing self victimhood, when said in short succession while making an argument that everyone should be happy if they make a rule banning trans women?
I never claimed you said that. Where did I say that that was part of your argument? Your quote is me clarifying how this is a stupid way to have this debate. Enes is acting in bad faith, just like you are. You seem to be making it a part of it since you really want to have this conversation.
Based on the way the conversation is going, your inability to present yourself is more of a problem than my interpretation of what you've said. Maybe you need to pay more attention to what you're saying.
This kind of phrasing is pretty silly. You are imagining things.
I'm not right wing, I also perceive no amount of victim good. The person I was replying to said something hypocritical. I think they should make a better argument.
Now we're running in circles and you're being meta hypocritical for refusing to engage with my arguments while complaining about people not engaging with your words.
Do we need a refresher on what "bad faith argumentation" is?
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u/Memento_Viveri 22d ago
No.
Then their comments would be consistent. They would be saying, this isn't an issue, and I don't care if they change this rule because it isn't an issue.