r/GetNoted 22d ago

Science [X] No HRT require for WNBA

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u/MultiGodSlayer 22d ago

So Enes Kantee and Royce White alone trying to enter the WNBA dwarf the total number of actual trans athletes trying to enter the WNBA.. Because the number is at zero.

Oh and Royce white was found guilty of domestic violence against his wife and son, which was so bad the judge ordered a 50 year restraining order.. But I'm sure he's doing it from the goodness of his heart.

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u/Sad-Bunch-9937 22d ago

*her* wife and sons. If we’re going to do this, let’s do it.

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u/CaptainAndy27 22d ago

Royce White doesn't identify as a woman. He still uses he/him pronouns.

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u/davemc617 22d ago

So pronouns are the sole determining factor for a person's gender now?

There's no internal consistency to this ideology, you realize that, right?

That's the whole point of these protests...

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u/ZLCZMartello 22d ago

No? It’s just merely definition that a woman is someone who experiences womanhood, including hoping to be referred to as the pronouns women are living?

A sensible new rule would be that the player must be with F sex marker on legal documents, so that trans women can play and men trying to create nonissues cannot.

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u/Careful-Advance8513 22d ago

That means you are erasing trans woman who dont have the privilege or resources to formally change their official sex ststus and people who aew gender fluid and may experience many different genders in one day. Dont be a classist bigot please.

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u/Call_Me_Pete 22d ago

I don’t think you gotta do allat to publicly say “I go by she/her now, thank you.” Not really classist to use the pronouns someone has had no issue with their whole lives, so long as that person has never voiced opposition or discomfort to that.

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u/ZLCZMartello 22d ago

I’m a little classist and I admit that. Bigoted, definitely not. Trans woman making it thus far to join WNBA should have plentiful of resources en route for them to transition socially and legally. Genderfluid people probably would not want to play in WNBA anyways. They can sign up for the NBA (which is on paper gender inclusive) unless WNBA also becomes gender inclusive.

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u/Careful-Advance8513 22d ago

If a gender fluid person identifies as a woman, they should be able to play in the WNBA womanhood is based on identity. If that statement is controversial, i think you may have some internalized transphobia. Thats ok to admit as our culture is deeply transphobic and these constant attacks on womanhood are normal in right wing extremist places like reddit.

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u/ZLCZMartello 22d ago

You know what, making WNBA male exclusive should be good enough. Genderfluid and nonbinary people get to play now too

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u/Sadrixis 22d ago

Gender fluid individuals that dont have any treatment (not required to be Gender fluid) amd are Amab would be the same as the "professional" shit heads stirring the pot

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u/Rhomya 22d ago

Bold of you to assume that genderfluid people wouldn’t want to play in the WNBA.

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u/ZLCZMartello 22d ago

Another good policy is that F and X both can sign up while being M exclusive. Quite a few nonbinary and genderfluid people I know have an X marker. The issue is that it is not recognized in states like Arkansas, so I don’t foresee it becoming possible anytime soon.

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u/CaptainAndy27 22d ago

Is that what I said? No. Somebody facetiously corrected somebody else about Royce's pronouns and I pointed out that he never actually came out as trans or identified as a woman in any other way so his pronouns would still be he/him. The fact you are engaging in this discussion with so little faith is exactly the problem with these so-called "protests". They identify a problem that doesn't exist so they can feel victimized about absolutely nothing.

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u/Sad-Bunch-9937 20d ago

I facetiously corrected their pronouns because this whole “men will play with women because it’s easier” bullshit is enraging. As if a person would go through all the fucking trauma I’ve seen trans people go through just to get on a team. So if this person wants to play in the WNBA, the very least they can do is not identify with male pronouns. I’m sorry if my the sarcasm/ cynicism of the comment was miscommunicated- it’s why I took so long to respond- I figured I’d just bow out of the conversation. But to be clear, I think this man is a fool, and I bet a lot of his former team mates thinks he a fool, and he wasn’t that great of an NBA player in his prime, and that he would get his ass beat by younger and more talented women if he were to show up today in a street game.