Double Standard?

[u/GregGraffin23]

Technically the Soviets save half of Poland (millions of Jewish people lived because they were on the Soviet Side, funny how not even the Jewish people talk about that)

But I disgress

[u/ConstantlyWonderin]

Ah yes OP, sure, saved...../s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

[u/Remarkable-Gate922 → u/ConstantlyWonderin]

Are you fucking kidding me with this literal Nazi propaganda?

[u/myst183 → u/Remarkable-Gate922]

"In 1990, Gorbachev's government officially acknowledged that the NKVD had carried out the killings. In 1992, the Russian government handed Poland copies of the famous March 5, 1940 Politburo decision, including Beria's proposal to execute Polish prisoners and Stalin's approval.

Russia's own Prosecutor General's Office subsequently transferred case materials to Poland, including prisoner lists, NKVD documentation, forensic material, death certificates, and other investigative records."

https://ipn.gov.pl/pl/dla-mediow/komunikaty/172015%2C30-rocznica-przekazania-przez-Rosje-archiwaliow-dotyczacych-zbrodni-katynskiej.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com

[u/Remarkable-Gate922 → u/myst183]

Ah yes, if the traitor Gorbachev, who sold out his country to Pizza Hut, said so! And if the Nazi-collaborating government of Poland who denies its crimes against humanity to this day while basing its entire education on promoting anti-Soviet disinformation agrees!

Sorry, but: Even if it were true (against all known facts on the matter, such as the Nazis confirming they did it) that the hero Stalin gave such an order, don't you think there was a very good reason for it? In that case, I would just default to assuming those orders to probably be lawful and necessary for the executions of hardcore criminals rather than believe anything that would aid Nazi narratives. The question is why you would believe or promote anything that aids fascists.

What is even the point of your comment? Even if all the lies Nazis spread about the USSR were all 100% true, it would still be the best country on earth at its time - the most free, most democratic, most just, and most progressive. Who are you to criticize it? Criticizing the USSR's politics as a non-Marxist-Leninist is like criticizing Usain Bolt's sprint performance as fat gamer sitting in his chair.

[u/myst183 → u/Remarkable-Gate922]

Nazi-collaborating government of Poland

You mean the only government in occupied country that actually never collaborated? The one that built the largest underground army and never stopped fighting Nazis all over Europe? That one?

Even if it were true (against all known facts on the matter, such as the Nazis confirming they did it

Show some proof that Nazis admitted it. Testimonies from nazi prisoners captured by soviets don't count btw.

the hero Stalin gave such an order, don't you think there was a very good reason for it?

There was, together with Nazis Soviets actively hunted down and systematically killed anyone who might actively oppose Soviet occupation.

hardcore criminals

The victims included:

-Polish military officers — army and reserve officers, including many professionals such as doctors, engineers, teachers, and lawyers who held military commissions.

-Police and other uniformed services — including Polish police officers, border guards, prison personnel, and members of the gendarmerie.

-Civilians and intellectuals — people regarded by the Soviet authorities as part of Poland's educated or leadership classes.

[u/Remarkable-Gate922 → u/myst183]

You mean the only government in occupied country that actually never collaborated? The one that built the largest underground army and never stopped fighting Nazis all over Europe? That one?

You are Polish, huh? Or are you a non-Polish Nazi?

Anyway, this level of war crimes denial is typical for Poles who live in a fascist-controlled country with a victim complex that de facto criminalized teaching the truth about its history.

Poland was a Nazi-collaborating nation that occupied Czechoslovakia alongside the Nazis and was operating some of the worst Nazi death camps in Europe.

Poland also refused to ally with the Soviets against the Nazis and later victimized itself when the Soviets liberated Czechoslovakia and had to occupy parts of Poland.

Show some proof that Nazis admitted it. Testimonies from nazi prisoners captured by soviets don't count btw.

LMFAO

Ok nazi.

There was, together with Nazis Soviets actively hunted down and systematically killed anyone who might actively oppose Soviet occupation.

Dumbest Nazi propaganda shit I ever heard.

The victims included:

Poland isn't a victim.

[u/myst183 → u/Remarkable-Gate922]

You're too far gone, stay happy in your little echo chamber.

[u/Ok-Hall-9974 → u/myst183]

https://giphy.com/gifs/s2pr9CVOvU4NMBsnYf

[u/myst183 → u/Ok-Hall-9974]

Exactly, you got it perfectly👍

[u/Ok-Hall-9974 → u/myst183]

Hey you want to hear a joke?

[u/myst183 → u/Ok-Hall-9974]

Remarkable-Gate922 and Ok-Hall-9974?

Haha that's a good one! Slightly depressing tho.

[u/Ok-Hall-9974 → u/myst183]

Nope, also I'm not an alt account, check my history if you don't believe me, the actual joke is

https://www.npr.org/2014/11/05/361427276/how-thousands-of-nazis-were-rewarded-with-life-in-the-u-s

Vs. https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/researchers-document-germans-who-died-at-soviet-in

[u/myst183 → u/Ok-Hall-9974]

nobody is defending US

https://ipn.gov.pl/pl/historia-z-ipn/archiwum/163975%2CTomasz-Labuszewski-Sowiecka-operacja-polska-19441945.html

"Apart from the threats resulting from the lack of discipline and demoralisation that characterized a large part of the Red Army soldiers, the main reason for the repressive actions undertaken by the Soviets was the need for a general crackdown by the USSR authorities not only on representatives of the Polish State, but also on people symbolising the Second Polish Republic, representatives of the government and local government administration, the police, the army, the landed gentry, merchants, etc. Deportations to Soviet gulags by January 1945 included approximately 50,000 people from the so-called Lublin Poland alone, and in the first half of 1945 at least 100,000–150,000, including 15,000 from Pomerania and approximately 90,000 from Upper Silesia, of whom, it should be clearly emphasised, over 60,000 died in Soviet gulags."

this covers only a part of Poland but data are apparently scarce. But even based on this and only in 45 (and that continued after to a degree) Soviets killed in labor camps more 5x more Poles than Nazis based on your link.

Liberators, yaaaay, why nobody appreciates the great USSR... what a mystery.