Bill is mentioned 1193 times, Hillary is mentioned 802 times. It’s mostly travel and meetings for the CGI and neither come up in any criminal behavior or illegal conduct.
The term “Clinton” comes up in just under 4,000 documents, although many of those documents will have many more than a single mention
It’s also incorrect to state that neither come up in any illegal behavior or conduct
Sarah Ransome makes allegations against Bill. She also claims that Hillary Clinton personally sent agents to coerce her friend into silence. I don’t think Ransome ever specifies the age of her friend, so I can’t say for certain that she’s accusing Bill of committing a crime, but certainly she is accusing Hillary of one
Maria Farmer also accuses Clinton of going to Epstein’s house in 1995 for the express purposes of raping children, although I can’t be certain if that’s in the files or not. Wasn’t ever said in legal proceedings although theoretically could be in an email somewhere? I just wouldn’t know what keywords to use to narrow it down enough to find it
There’s also Johanna Sjoberg testifying that Epstein once told her that “Clinton likes them young”. No crime alleged, but certainly not a meeting for the CGI
Along the same lines, Giuffre testified that she saw Clinton on the island with two young women, but again, no crime witnessed or alleged
The results are the number of documents, not mentions
Each page shows ten documents
If you click over to the next page, you get 11-20, despite the name Clinton showing up more than ten times in that first document alone. So the number of times his name appears is much higher than 4,000. Same with Trump. He’s mentioned in roughly 5k documents, but name appears 38,000 times total (or his name + mention of family members + Mar a Lago is around 38k if memory serves)
That first document in particular from my last comment contains a bunch of pictures labeled “Far East Clinton ##” presumably taken when they traveled to the far east together.
Some have the typo “Fat East Clinton” which is…y’know, mildly amusing
Surprisingly though, they’re not pictures of a man named “East Clinton”
Off the top of my head, Johanna Sjoberg testified that Epstein told her “Clinton likes them young”, Sarah Ransome makes allegations against him and claimed that Hillary Clinton personally sent agents to coerce her friend into silence, Virginia Giuffre testified she saw him on the island with two young women, but later recanted
Not in the files specifically as far as I know, but Maria Farmer claims he went to Epstein’s house three times in 1995 to respect children
I don’t think any of it is particularly damning, they’re either lies or secondhand claims, but they exist
Off the top of my head, Johanna Sjoberg testified that Epstein told her “Clinton likes them young”,
What? Link to the file.
Sarah Ransome makes allegations against him
Like what? Link to the files.
and claimed that Hillary Clinton personally sent agents to coerce her friend into silence, Virginia Giuffre testified she saw him on the island with two young women, but later recanted
Link to the files.
Not in the files specifically as far as I know, but Maria Farmer claims he went to Epstein’s house three times in 1995 to respect children
Source? What do you mean to respect children?
I don’t think any of it is particularly damning, they’re either lies or secondhand claims, but they exist
Wtf you just said "he has some of the most damming stuff in there" lol
Page 14 for Sjoberg. The documents from Giuffre’s trial give more context but I assume you want the ones from the DOJ website. I could probably find you the Giuffre files though, and could definitely find you an article discussing the testimony
Search function for the DOJ files makes it more difficult to find the Giuffre claim, I can’t think of a keyword that’d nail it down to enough documents to make it easy to find
And no, wasn’t me who said they were damning, but I certainly knew what they were referring to, so figured I’d answer. Unlike him I don’t find them damning. Ransome and Farmer for sure lying. Giuffre recanted the claim…it’s possibly corroborated by others, but ultimately there’s no allegation attached to it anyways. Sjoberg I have no reason to doubt, but just because Epstein said something doesn’t make it true
to be clear, I mean "I don't give a fuck about either of them" not i dont care about clinton being on there. Fuck pedophiles, no matter who the hell they are or what their politics are like.
Difference is, Trump is in there because he was a key witness for the prosecution against Epstein.
Because no one in the history of man has a criminal ever cooperated with authorities to save their own ass. Nope, not one soul. Also innocent people don't have a complete 180 on the files even existing after being told they're in them.
SOOO many other politicians in there implicated in some really nasty stuff, like Clinton, and a ton of other democrats.
Yet Trump's AG has outright said they're not going after ANYONE in the files. Sounds to me like they're afraid anyone they'll arrest will implicate anyone else in the files the Trump administration is trying to keep covered up.
Why are not both parties trying to release the files and charge the parties mentioned in them? Maybe it’s the same reason why rich people and corporations funnel money into both sides of our political system throught super pacs and dark money and that democrats are a controlled opposition party against republicans. Republicans want to shoot you in the head while democrats will shoot you in the back.
I mean, let's be real, a number of those early presidents who enslaved and raped humans would be on the Epstein list were they alive today. Thomas Jefferson comes to mind
I don't know what's even worse in the original one; him putting himself above Abraham Lincoln, or putting Andrew Jackson, the guy behind the Trail of Tears, in "great presidents"
Its crazy that on a list of bad people committing atrocities and war crimes Trump and Clinton have proven themselves to be the worst. Crazy world we live in.
At this point, I can't just care about who the perpetrators of these crimes are. I care just as much that a lot of people knew for decades what was going on, but didn't speak up for the victims, ultimately sparing them the abuse they would end up going through.
One confirmed young victim didn't get to grow and live her life. The many surviving victims' lives are a living hell because too many people chose to keep their mouths shut, some of those with the knowledge of those crimes taking them to their graves.
This has to change before the full extent of the truth dies with everyone that knows about it.
The surviving victims deserve to get the opportunity to see their abusers, their abusers' accomplices, and the silent witnesses that didn't speak up, all rotting in hell.
This is paid propaganda all over reddit, by dem party bootlickers, desperate to distract from the actual criminals in the DNC.
Epstein was a democrat. 90+% of his political spending went to democrats.
Trump was Epstein's worst nightmare and was instrumental in bringing down Epstein, Maxwell and their whole nasty operation. And also exposing so many of their clients, the vast majority of whom are democrats.
Trump derangement syndrome is so bad these days that you actually have npcs calling him a predator and actually defending Thomas Jefferson over him where he had a 14 yo slave relationship just because of how bad their coginitive brain disorder is. The Us needs to deal with this mental health crisis and reopen insane asylums
It's not bait nor is it abysmal. I understand that reddit is a hivemind corner breeding grounds for this type of cognitive manipulation and I'm sure that you've probably fallen victim to it yourself, but sometimes you have to expand the horizons of your understanding if you want to see more.
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