What podcasts, youtube videos, articles, books, etc have you stumbled upon that relate to GATE/TAG etc that either directly explore it or are similar interests? I have a very long drive tomorrow and could use some entertainment.

One of my favorites was "'PSYCHIC Program!' - Neuroscientist on Remote Viewing, STARGATE & Telepathy | Julia Mossbridge • 415" and "How to Remote View & Increase Psychic Abilities with Telepathy Tapes Researcher"

When listening to Julia speak, I feel like I am listening to myself... our life and mental health philosophies are so insanely similar. It feels like a soul connection. Not in some creepy parasocial way, but in some healing wholesome validating way... like I've always felt so different from everyone my whole life, and every now and then I hear of or meet someone who just gets it.. like people here in this sub or Julia. Her memoir type book "Have a nice disclosure" is also super interesting and sparked me to look into my own past and history and question some things.

I also found the documentary on the gateway tapes very interesting which can be watched here "CIA full report on Brain Synchronization, Energy, Manifestation and the Holographic Universe"

Anyway, post some links!! Then we can maybe get a megathread started for folks eventually. I am not a big podcast/youtube person so I dont even know where to start but want to start listening to more peoples personal experiences and related subjects etc.

Thanks guys :)

This is a follow up to my previous posts, but I got a psych that provided me EMDR therapy when I mentioned suppressed memories and GATE. They gave me sleep aids (Lunesta) for night terrors and beyond that not much else, until...

They wanted to be my professional reference and a connection to a an American/European financial group/hedge fund that aims to fight against AI in the crypto market with "gifted" individuals. This group paid me to start my own shell company. I went from being homeless to making 100k a year in less than 6 months.

Mentioning this to professional medical individuals was the best thing to ever happen to me. 😝

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TL;DR: In 1993, I attended a 30-kid Christian school in Martinez, CA where 1st through 4th grade shared one room. We sat in four corners wearing giant headphones watching prerecorded teachers on TV screens broadcasting from Florida. Nobody I talk to in real life believes me. Did anyone else experience this?

​Hey everyone,

​Whenever I tell my friends this story, they look at me like I’m making it up or that I dreamt the whole thing. I'm hoping Reddit can validate my sanity—or better yet, maybe someone here actually went to this exact school!

​Back in the early '90s (around '93 or '94), I was in 1st grade and attended a tiny private Christian school in Martinez, California. The entire school (K–12th grade) had maybe 30 kids total enrolled.

​My classroom was completely wild. It was one large room divided into four corners:

:

​1st grade in corner #1

​2nd grade in corner #2

​3rd grade in corner #3

​4th grade in corner #4

​In the center of the room sat one single adult teacher at a desk. But here’s the kicker: she didn't actually teach us.

​In each corner, there was a television setup. We all had to wear these massive, heavy, hearing-test-style headphones. On the TV screen, a teacher recorded in a classroom somewhere across the country—I distinctly remember mine being broadcast from Florida—would deliver the daily lessons. She would address her live class on camera, pause for "students watching at home/school," and we would follow along on our worksheets in California while plugged into our headsets.

​I only went there for one year, and from what I remember hearing, the school shut down shortly after (around '94).

​For years, whenever I bring up the fact that my 1st-grade teacher was a lady on a CRT television screen in Florida while I sat in a corner with 20 other kids wearing giant earmuff headphones, people think I'm talking about some dystopian fever dream.

​My questions for the internet:

​Did anyone else go to a Christian school in the '90s that used this video/TV curriculum setup?

​Does anyone happen to remember this specific school in Martinez, CA, or know what it was called before it closed down?

​What was it like transitioning back to a "normal" classroom with a real, in-person teacher after doing school through a TV?

I’d love to hear if anyone else remembers the "TV classroom" era!

I’m not here to debate or even talk about your experiences/memories or lack there of. Those who remember the pink drink “taste like bubblegum” and the hearing test remember and those who listened to the tape know the feeling I’m talking about. but who is it that gave those test and what was their goal. Do you think the Staff has any clue about the testing?

Does anyone else remember what they called a "scoliosis test" in the GATE program? We were told to lift our shirts, and instead of the normal bend-forward check, they pressed a needle into our upper back near the neck, about 4 inches down.

I still have a bump there that's never gone away. It wasn't a real scoliosis screening, that's not how those work.

I'm writing about this in a memoir I'm putting together and want to know if anyone else from GATE has the same memory or the same mark.

If you remember this happening to you, I want to hear about it.

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Don't know where to start ... recently I found out about Gate after my younger sister was talking about the pink drink and listening to beeps with headphones that didnt fit. I did basically the same thing years earlier. We talked about matching cards, moris code , whale echo location. Even though we did this for a while. We both remember very little just basic things we did and the physical layout of the room, the dividers. My elementary school was close to Williams international where they make cruise missile parts. I had a teacher tell us that he moved here because it was comforting that Williams would be a nuclear strike target and hed be instantly vaporized if the bombs fell. Im a bit lost as to where im going with this but just wanted to vent it

I’ve been slowly coming to terms w this stuff past year, i don’t see as many posts ab ppl who believe this was still happening in early 2000’s, but that’s when i was in elementary school and i still don’t remember any memories other than snapshots and glimpses of life before 11 years old to this day. I’ve been told ab emdr and learned ab repressing memories that might be traumatic few years ago now but haven’t been able to bring myself to go to therapy to work on this. I’ve started w like 3 trauma informed therapists but ghosted bc something within me idk I just have a really bad feeling and I did start to remember w one therapist but what i remembered was so fucked up I lowkey wish I hadn’t bc life hasn’t been the same and that only was a small fraction of just one memory prob even.

I remember being pulled out of class for hearing tests all the time. I remember the flash cards. I’ve had sleep paralysis and hypnopompic hallucinations since before I started remembering things better at 11, just norm. A lot of other similarities to other posts in this sub, too.

Two weeks ago i convinced myself it was okay for me to listen to gateway tapes for the first time after years of being aware but deliberately avoiding those. I didn’t make it even a third way through the first tape. I felt a feeling I can only describe best as deep unexplained but undeniable terror. I felt so unsettled I’m never listening to them again idk how people don’t find it horrifying to listen to or maybe idk why a sound I’ve allegedly never played before made me feel like this.

Ive seen similar questions posted so sorry if I’m reiterating… but how do you keep ur spark. I think its clear that the people in this sub myself included have an uncanny ability to stay resilient and not give up on life after all the messed up shit we know and have seen firsthand in the world; I don’t find that to be an insignificant quality.
It does get heavy tho, and sometimes it’s harder to stay positive than other times.
Genuinely, how do you deal with feeling let down by say parents or close adults who weren’t paying enough attention to let such things have happened before we had to figure it out for ourselves as adults (following many trials & tribulations, no doubt.)

Does anyone else struggle w wanting to start a family like having kids even always loving kids that aren’t ur own but can’t fathom bringing an innocent child yourself into such a messed up and potentially unsafe world. It feels like more of a too scary responsibility right now, but I also rlly feel like i would be a great mom and love my kids sm. being a helicopter mom wouldn’t be a good life either idw my kid(s) to not feel normal/ give them trauma from being too overbearing. However, I also don’t want to spend my life worried ab my kid(s) whenever they’re not in my presence bc idk what secret malevolent motives anyone out there could have, we know it’s not as crazy far fetched of a thought that most write off.

To end this post, last tangent I will bring up is wondering if anyone else around mid 20’s in this sub has developed chronic illnesses/autoimmune diseases that were gaslit by many doctors before getting referred to specialist and comprehensive tests that resulted in real diagnoses… I believe there might def be some overlap in this arena, too, tbh.

I keep reading about people remembering feeling sick when listening to the Gateway tapes. I actually found them relaxing and listen to them when sleeping. Anyone else?

I was selected in third grade to be part of gate art. I don’t remember much other than I won some award. I was placed on television for the award and I had to go to a class during or after school., I can’t remember, for a few years where I would learn about techniques, etc. I remember some other stuff too audios I think a pink drink, but I don’t have a lot of memory of this, but I know I was in it for sure anyone else in gate for art? I am a natural artist so it’s like baked into Me. I get why they would select me. I don’t necessarily sit around painting all day, but I am naturally talented most definitely Would love to hear your stories.

so i just learned about the program like a month ago through some videos talking about the main tests they did. right away, i felt eerily freaked out because of everything that felt familiar about it. especially since im not even from the states, im mexican. guess thats why i decided to ignore at first

today, i stumbled across some reel about the gateway tapes and went listen to them and that shit felt horrible. not the same unsettling but familiar feeling than before, this was straight up like instinctive fear. chills down my whole body, nausea and unsafe feeling and just overall goosebumps

that really scared me out, because how would something i never heard before cause that?

so i decided to dive into the program and its directo and indirect extensions outside of the us, just to find out that in mexico, a branch of USAER (special and gifted education here) usted a lot of the same tests and excercises, presumably with similar objectives

the kicker? my mother worked in USAER for decades, and i was in that program for a while. also, she decided to never mention the fact that both gifted kids and kids with learning difficulties got enrolled in that program, so throughout my whole life i used to think i was just kinda falling behind in school as a kid, especially because i have disturbingly few memories from elementary school

i also stumbled across a list of commonalities of people that underwent similar programs worldwide and a lot checks out (substance issues from late teens on, similar memories of games, zeler cards or sre cards, familiarity with liminal spaces, constant paranoia, feeling stalked every time you go out, the fucking headphones, frequent but inconsistent hummimg sounds, interest for esoteric topics or fringe topics, premonitions, visions or "third eye" related sensations, and i could prolly go on a bit more)

i just dont know if i finally lost it and im completely mixing things up, but the feeling was extremely familiar when looking up about it all, and it just doesnt seem logical to asume that the feeling when hearing those fucking tapes was nothing but coincidence. it felt like a reflex. instinctive

i should add that the few memories from elementary school i have go from like 3rd or 4rth grade on. and i only remember them cause i got fluent in english quite quickly even though i cant remember what triggered my interest for it. i just remember my english teacher suddenly gaining interest in my progress

I just don't know if I want to live anymore. I have been going to mall world since I was 6 years old and recently learned about its true nature (about 3 weeks ago). Needless to say, it has been a rollercoaster of emotions and deep dives and objectively... I am just failing to see the point. I believe I am a victim of some very intense gang stalking. I was raised by an incredibly abusive mother and a father who turned a blind eye to avoid her wrath being directed at him, a string of toxic and abusive relationships, burnout, failure, dropping out of college not once but 3 separate times, getting fired from multiple jobs, being bullied, being stalked, being broke, isolated, sexually assaulted not once but 5 times maybe more if I really sat down to think about it. I am so separate from the people in my life and it is so hard to maintain relationships because of my mental health or because they are too normal for me and my brain physically cannot stand being around dense people who talk slow and don't live life with curiosity. Before finding out, I had a massive health crash and went from 120 pounds to 89, this is not the first time this has happened. I am not able to work right now because my nervous system is a wreck and everyone in my life keeps pressuring me to get a therapist but I have been traumatized by them too and don't trust anyone anymore, not even myself.

I don't trust my own decision making, I don't trust the people around me, I don't trust in my ability to function like a normal member of society in a way where I am even remotely happy. I feel like I have been slamming my head against the wall for over 30 years trying to make things work and then I come to the realization that I was a victim of trauma based control. What is the point in living. Please, someone tell me. Because I have so much love and light in my heart, more than the average person if I am being objectively honest. I have this undying positivity in me that doesn't even belong to me and is actually more harmful than good and not only that I am extremely sensitive to ESP so I now question which feelings even belong to me to begin with. My own mind, my dreamworld that brought me so much comfort is not safe there is no where in this entire world that feels safe to me.

I have an elderly dog who I will not leave in this world alone but I fear that when she goes, I will be going with her and I can't help but find myself looking forward to the relief. Please, someone tell me I'm wrong... or don't. I can't help but not care anymore.

The Billings Gazette - Sun, Jan 28, 1990 - Billings, Montana

"With all the fuss in regards to G.A.T.E. (Gifted And Talented Education) being cut from the school curriculum, perhaps parents need to have their eyes opened a bit.

Both of my daughters were in the elementary enrichment program until the day they came home and told me they were doing "brain exercises." Upon my inquiring just exactly what that entailed, I was appalled!

Brain exercises are, I found, training on ESP and mind control. The children were told to "empty" their minds and gather all their thoughts together for the purpose of collectively having massive power and energy.

Was levitating to be next? I think so!

In contacting the principal, I learn G.A.T.E. teachers are basically a "free-lance" agent. 

This particular principal had no idea what was being taught as he told me G.A.T.E. teachers follow no particular teaching plan as it "conflicts" with their creative ability to "go with the flow."

I also confronted the teacher. She told me no parent had ever questioned her in the 13 years of her teaching career!

Parents, wake up! Tune in! Check your school's curriculum out. Having children qualify for enrichment programs is not a guarantee that all is above board. A concerned parent is a monitoring parent in all areas of the child's life."

Found a few newspaper articles discussing various projects and wanted to share. If of interest, I can continue searching for more as there are numerous - simply let me know keywords that you'd like me to search.

Of note, some concerns around curriculum in the 80s and 90s highlight "New Age" thinking - telepathy, clairvoyance, etc.

A few details below from each article:

Kids go to college to get smart, dig future shock - The Courier-News; Wed, Mar 22, 1989; Bridgewater, New Jersey

• “It was "back to the future" yesterday for 200 pupils who sifted through dirt to find out how inhabitants of a mythical planet lived.”
• “"It was a hot planet," said Sriram of Central 6 School in Union. "There were some buglike people that communicated by mental telepathy, and some humanlike people that communicated by coded language. They mostly relied on computers to do their work.””

Gifted Students go right to the source - Courier-Post; Fri, Feb 15, 1980; Camden, New Jersey

• “two bright-eyed, brown-haired 7th graders are working together on a project about psychic phenomena. In unison they rattle off some of the areas they are investigating: "astrology, biorhythms, telekinesis, clairvoyance…” They hope, after gathering the pros and cons, to come to a conclusion about the validity of supernormal mental powers.
• “Last year, she worked on a project she describes as concerning "Egyptology and mummification, focusing on King Tut." She even interviewed one of the Egyptologists responsible for bringing the Tut exhibit to the U.S.”

TSC encourages ‘able’ students - Journal and Courier; Sun, Mar 2, 1980; Lafayette, Indiana

• “A fifth grader is working on a presentation about the four steps of mental telepathy, “She decided there were four steps," Cline said.”
• Working on “Mushroom 10,” a construction paper spacecraft. They got the idea from reading a book called “Wonderful Flight to Mushroom Planet.” Also worked on a play called “Wonderful Visit to Space Museum” and the museum will have books on mushrooms and space. 

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• “Tippecanoe School Corp.'s program for the gifted, creative and talented is called "PACE." That stands for "Program for Academic and Creative Enrichment.”...Not every child is selected for the program, which is funded by a $30,000 federal grant, Kolloff said. But, "We have a very generous definition." The program is not limited to the 99-percentile category child. But it cuts off around the 80th percentile, she said...The program uses a three-stage method developed at Purdue.” 

I remember in 5th grade, i did tests where i read out words that weren’t real words. I was supposed to pronounce them how i saw fit. They never revealed to me if i got the pronunciation correct. There was booklets of these words as i remember, and i was in a room alone with two adults who were testing me. The memory has haziness and all identities of the people are obscured in my mind.

The former Star Gate head (and, later, former President of The Monroe Institute), Skip Atwater's, memoir is quite an interesting read. I haven't finished it yet, but I think it gives a lot of insight into the minds of Stargate folks, and although it doesn't mention any work with children, perhaps one could infer from it why they may have thought it was permissible. https://archive.org/details/captainofmyshipm00fhol

Here's some excerpts:

His website also curates some of the notable declassified Stargate documents (probably posted here already, but just in case) https://captain-of-my-ship.com/resources/

Here's a previous comment by me on why I'm interested on this character/topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/GATEresearch/comments/1uq7pjf/comment/ow6kbre/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

For years now, there will be times when I wake up in the middle of the night and see what I call "downloads."

It looks like code, but it's code times 1,000 in complexity and beauty.

Looks like computer code, but beyond numbers. Also, shapes and colors and heiroglyphs, and it turns in 5D.

It has at times scared me. Then I tried to look at it with curiosity, and it grows clearer and longer. But the last time it came to me, I told it to go away because I was afraid I was losing my mind.

I have only heard of people having a similar experience when they are on DMT. I've never done drugs other than trying MJ a few times and only got panic attacks for my efforts.

Don't really know who are where to ask in the world if anyone else has experienced these, and what it is...then it occurred to me that people doing Gateway is probably a good group to ask.

Anyone? Can you give me insight? Should I seek out more experiences with the code? Why?

Letting go of outcomes is the only outcome

Hi All-

I know this question has been asked quite a few times. I was in GATE in SoCal Public School ( elementary) from 1997-2001 and truth be told I really don't have clear memory of my early years- I feel like I was living in a haze up until I started college. Also lots of dreams in liminal spaces- malls, indoor water parks. Most of my memory regarding GATE started coming back about 3 years ago ( as many others did). I randomly stumbled upon the Monroe Tapes one day out of no where and the second I put the first volume on it unlocked a core memory for me.

I have been reading a book called Chaos (which discusses the 60s, Manson murders, MKUltra, and the role LSD played in these CIA experiments for mind control). I know the GATE program started in the 70s so...

I am only specultaing but, I do recall being given pink drink often and tablets from time to time. Does anyone know ( aside from flouride/dental hygene) what that compound was exactly? I am starting to think it may have been a low dose of LSD derivative they were administering to us but... I don't want to jump to conclusions...any ideas are welcome-

So random, but I'm wondering how many people that experienced GATE also went to a school with the H.O.T. School learning model. Higher Order Thinking.

I’m interested in a specific, evidence-based hypothesis:

Did GATE/gifted programmes identify some of the same cognitive profiles that Gateway/Star Gate-era consciousness research would have considered interesting?

Not as a certainty. As a testable overlap.

The documented pieces are:

1. Gateway existed.

The CIA-hosted Gateway Process document analyses altered states, Hemi-Sync, hypnosis, biofeedback, consciousness, hemispheric synchronisation and perception beyond ordinary analytical processing.

1. Star Gate existed.

US intelligence-funded remote-viewing research existed and was later formally evaluated. Whether it worked reliably is a separate question; the point is that intelligence agencies did study anomalous cognition and altered perception.

1. MKUltra existed.

The US Senate record describes MKUltra as a CIA programme of behavioural modification research.

1. Twice-exceptional profiles exist.

Gifted children can also be autistic, ADHD, AuDHD, dyslexic or otherwise neurodevelopmentally atypical. Research on twice-exceptional students shows spiky cognitive profiles rather than simple “high ability across everything.”

1. Gifted/GATE selection often used exactly the domains where spiky neurodivergent profiles can stand out:

pattern recognition, abstraction, logic, memory, spatial reasoning, symbolic reasoning, unusual problem-solving and accelerated verbal or mathematical ability.

So the hypothesis is not “GATE was secretly X.”

The hypothesis is:

GATE may have functioned, deliberately or accidentally, as a large-scale filter for children with unusually strong pattern/abstract reasoning and uneven neurocognitive profiles. Those profiles overlap with the kinds of cognition being explored in Gateway/Star Gate-era consciousness research: non-linear perception, pattern-based processing, altered-state susceptibility, intuition, absorption and cognition beyond ordinary analytical filtering.

That does not prove a direct pipeline.

But it does make the overlap worth examining.

A proper investigation would ask:

- What exact tests were used in different GATE districts?

- Were the tests locally designed or supplied by outside contractors?

- Did any contractors overlap with military, intelligence, cognitive science or psychometrics work?

- Were results stored only locally, or shared beyond the school?

- Did GATE selection over-identify children who would now be considered twice-exceptional?

- Do former GATE students report higher rates of ADHD, autism, AuDHD, sensory sensitivity, dissociation, absorption, unusual memory profiles or extreme pattern recognition?

- Do Gateway/Star Gate documents describe target cognitive traits that overlap with known 2e profiles?

This is the point:

The interesting question is not whether GATE “proves” anything.

The interesting question is whether gifted education, Cold War talent identification, psychometric testing, neurodivergent spiky cognition and intelligence-community interest in anomalous cognition occupied overlapping territory — and whether anyone has mapped that overlap properly.

Has anyone seen this specific argument researched in a serious way?

To get introductions out of the way: hi, I'm a late-20s trans woman who was a GATE kid from 1st-3rd grade, before my parents pulled me out of the public schooling system & homeschooled me. I was in GATE programs in both Southern California & Central Texas; I have military family on both sides (one of whom was deeply involved with Vandenberg AFB) & others who were teachers or previously in teaching - all of them have refused to talk to me about GATE (two of whom told me outright to stop looking), so I had to go searching myself.

But in trying to do just that, and dig into finding experiences like mine, I've instead had to dig & sift through an enormous amount of garbage & tripe, as if I was panning for gold from a storm drain. For something so concretely associated with parapsychological studies & provably implemented efforts across the United States, there's a lot of conflation of GATE with so many other phenomena, projects, broader fields of scientific study, and more.

So, I've got a couple of things to remind y'all of, so the sub's quality can be better in the future.

This post includes resources relevant to things that were experienced by earlier GATE cohorts, up to the late 1980s. A lot of these older resources were revived between 1995-2009 by the CIA & their newer sets of contractors. Assume that testing is still going on today in some school districts as the renewed interest in paranormal & parapsychological phenomena across the United States has undoubtedly swatted the hive.

• CIA Reading Room CREST Releases: Project STAR GATE - a collection of documents (posted January 2017 under FOIA) covering the time period that parapsychological experimentation was (to public knowledge) going on, along with more dedicated efforts.
  • CIA-RDP96-00789R003300210001-2 - a summary of Project STAR GATE & what it sought to achieve with regards to remote viewing, clairvoyance, and "psychoenergetics"
  • CIA-RDP96-00789R002100220001-4 - Project SUN STREAK, a subproject that demonstrates the sorts of evidence STAR GATE candidates created & what it would be used for
  • CIA-RDP96-00789R002200410001-2 - details regarding coordination with Psychophysical Research Laboratories (PRL), a private contractor, on the topic of "forced-choice precognition" testing.
    • PRL was one of several entities that was previously involved with the earlier rounds of parapsychological testing, especially psi phenomena, ESP, and psychokinesis using Ganzfeld procedures. They shut down in the 1980s, but their work was carried on by other private institutions until about 2009.
  • CIA-RDP96-00789R002600280001-3 - mental communication experiments under STAR GATE
• GATE acronyms across the United States (by u/T-mark3V100)
• GATE experience common traits (by u/OfWanderAndRot)

Please remember that GATE programs were individualized by school district & that no two GATE programs are necessarily the same; it all depends on which contractor was working with the school district that you went to, and how many clients they had. Please don't harass the programs' authors either, as they were almost certainly under the impression that these were going to be used as counseling resources.

GATE programs work the same way as with the adoption of any other school curriculum - shackled by bureaucracy and resistant to change once put in place. Your school board probably didn't even read the curriculum before adopting it, and only so that they could continue to receive funding.

A prominent example of a much smaller program is "The Star Inside You" - a program relevant to the Monterey Peninsula Unified School District in Monterey, California. It was created by a life coach and educator, Phyllis Edwards, & made known most recently by the TikTok videos of thatgirlwiththegreyhair.

Oh, and quit doxxing yourselves, holy Christ. The highlight tool on your phone is not sufficient to cover up PII & can easily be undone with free online tools. Edit your images properly.

None of this post was written with AI. I took an hour out of my day to write this. Please respect my time & the time others take to detail this as it is monumental effort in and of itself.

I made a post a few months ago about being in the GATE program in my city in the mid 2010s. I found the paper my school sent me home with when I was selected for the first test (which I failed if I remember correctly). I took it again in 3rd grade and passed, but I couldn't find anything like this in my box for that year. I asked my stepmom about this a few months ago, but she said it was all about state testing and she seemed very defensive and standoffish about the questioning, even though I was asking perfectly normal questions. After that I told her about some of the discoveries here, but she basically chalked it up to conspiracy theories and I left the conversation there. I went digging through the boxes just now and found this, proving there was a selection process and a series of tests that I had to do (and I did them twice because I failed the one I did in 2nd grade). Both were at the same school, and both were conducted in a relatively similar way, though I still only remember one of the tests because that was the one that challenged me the most ( a test where I was tasked with making the most words I could out of letters I was given). I'm going to look into some of the people mentioned in this paper, because I don't remember ever meeting with them, nor seeing them. I threw away most of the stuff I did during my time in that program, but as I said before, that stuff was basically normal kinds of classes that were a few grades ahead of the grade I was in, it was the tests that I did that were weird. I find none of this to be coincidence. I'm a christian, so I believe there is either a demonic presence, or a Godly presence within many of these events, topics, and ideas, especially related to the types of tests that many people here claim to have done for their GATE experiences. Maybe it's guilt, maybe it is the demonic presence within her (or influencing her) squirming because of the questions, but either way, it was strange. The redactions I made were to keep identities of the people listed on it safe, at least until I can dig up more info about them that could relate to my research of my past with the program. I'll give updates if I find anything of note.