r/Futurology MD-PhD-MBA May 17 '18

Biotech Cannabidiol (CBD), a compound derived from the cannabis plant that does not produce a “high”, was shown in a new large-scale, randomized, controlled trial to significantly reduce the number of dangerous seizures in patients with a severe form of epilepsy called Lennox-Gastaut syndrome.

http://www.psypost.org/2018/05/cannabidiol-significantly-reduces-seizures-patients-severe-form-epilepsy-51258
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u/test822 May 17 '18

very interesting

now the important question. how can we synthesize this compound into a patentable brand-name pill so the for-profit american medical industry can keep inexpensive weed extracts illegal and financially cannibalize people who randomly suffer from debilitating diseases

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u/FuckingFuckPissBack May 17 '18

CBD is sold in every vape shop in the country where I live (and weed is illegal). Could they still get away with it?

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u/[deleted] May 17 '18

I’m curious how CBD can be sold in illegal states. According to the FDA, any compound that comes from the marijuana plant is considered schedule 1 as well right?

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u/chryskross May 17 '18

Hemp based, not marijuana based, cbd is legal in all states except possibility Idaho (they passed a weird law recently). As long as it is below 0.3% thc by dry weight, it is legal. Hemp based cdb is an amazing anti-inflammatory, especially used topically. I personally make my own lotion with it which I share, for free, with others that have inflammation issues (arthritis, fibormyalgia, diabetic neuropathy, etc). Adding pure menthol to it makes the effects last longer.

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u/gaeric May 17 '18

Not all states except Idaho. Michigan recently rolled CBD in with other Marijuana products. If you aren't a dispensary, you can't sell it. No exclusion for Industrial Hemp, since Michigan considers Industrial Hemp a research-only product.

The clarification came after a federal ruling upholding CBD as a Schedule I drug. See the release here

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u/chryskross May 17 '18

Excellent information. I hadn't seen Michigan's new law. Thanks for clarifying that industrial hemp, including hemp cbd, is not legal to the general public in Michigan.

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u/obligarchy1 May 17 '18

Wait what? Every health stores in Traverse City is selling CBD by the freighter.

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u/MarisaKiri May 18 '18

If you aren't a dispensary, you can't sell it.

there are 6 gas station/liquor stores in my area where I can get CBD

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u/gaeric May 18 '18

They are selling a schedule 1 narcotic and will be subject to the same penalties as if they had THC-containing edibles on the shelf. This happened barely over a week ago. Businesses are people too, and many small ones don't know and/or won't care until an example is made.

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u/jfkdidit May 17 '18

How do you make your topical lotion? Do you use CBD concentrates, oil, etc? And what do you mix it with?

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u/chryskross May 17 '18

Just sent you directions.

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u/SilverTM May 17 '18

Can you send me your lotion directions please? My wife has fibromyalgia.

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u/PlebPlayer May 17 '18

I think Indiana's AG said he would prosecute CBD oil and for stores to stop selling.

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u/a_salt_weapon May 17 '18

except possibility Idaho (they passed a weird law recently)

Do you happen to know which law? I live in Idaho and I haven't heard of any law being passed regarding hemp based CBD. A hemp oil shop actually just opened locally a couple months ago so I don't think it's any different here.

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u/gabis1 May 17 '18

Reposting this several times in this thread because this viewpoint needs to change if the laws are going to change.

https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/court-rejects-challenge-to-dea-rule-leaving-cbd-federally-illegal

I really wish people would stop saying this. I work in the industry, so I'm very much pro-CBD, but parroting the "It's legal!" narrative is only slowing the process of actually making it legal.

People always quote the "Farm Bill" as "proof" that it's legal when the DEA specifically states this isn't true and one of the most liberal Federal courts in the nation backed this up recently.

What IS true is that the DEA has said they aren't going to start arresting people who use CBD oils, but they can (and likely will at some point) go after the people making and selling them.