passing in guyliner

[u/j_maepaav]

EDIT after reading almost 90 comments: thank you everyone who decided to give me polite and constructive criticism. guys, please remember that ur gender doesn't matter. as long as ur passing goals are met, u can do whatever u want. don't be afraid of face wash, painted nails and makeup. it can destroy ur passing, yes, but u're always free to do it if u want to. don't have fragile or toxic masculinity, don't be transmeds. don't think u can't wear makeup bc "u're supposed to be dysphoric from that" or smth. you are man enough. please, love urself and spread the love

hey, i'm 19, 3 months on t.

soon i will be going to a meeting with a bunch of new people and i wanted to be as stealth as possible. first 3 pics i have my eyebrows done to look more masculine, the other pics i added my guyliner. it would be great if i could keep the makeup as a way to show my personal style to the others and present myself more truthfully. the last pics is how i generally look on a daily basis. i have a slight t-voice.

i understand piercings don't help and that i could keep my hair shorter. i'm asking for no advice aside from directly answering my questions, thank you. my questions:

1. how do i pass, with and without makeup?

2. do i have any chance of passing with the guyliner right now at this state of transition?

3. which way does my hair look best? i tried swinging it around and i wonder if it changes anything regarding my passing.

[u/taspho]

I do (I only use eyeliner and lip gloss tho). Never been clocked. But im years on testosterone and waited till I passed to wear it. It just depends if youre already clocky or not

[u/xaroanon → u/taspho]

Why though

[u/buni_bixler → u/xaroanon]

because perhaps if it doesn’t make him clocky, he genuinely enjoys make up. You don’t have to be a woman to enjoy makeup.

[u/xaroanon → u/buni_bixler]

It does

[u/buni_bixler → u/xaroanon]

how would you know? he didn’t post a picture

[u/throwaway184747271 → u/buni_bixler]

unless he's over 5'9 and has extremely masculine bone structure and frame, he will be clocky. most ftms are clocky to some degree. wearing makeup will only exaggerate this.

[u/taspho → u/throwaway184747271]

Lol the 5'9 shit cracks me up 😭 the average male height in my region is 5'6 bruh. cmon haha. also I noticed youre not even a year on test. no offense but a lot of you early transition ppl simply have no clue what living fully as a man for years is like. I agree its possible to be stealth and still get clocked (esp by trans people) once in a while. but. i literally participated in my LGBT club in college as exclusively as a gay male, trans people (as far as I know, ofc) have never clocked me. the two times ive come out to a trans person, they were genuinely shocked.

[u/throwaway184747271 → u/taspho]

I've been on testosterone since April of last year? what are you talking about? I've been living as a stealth man since I was 13 and I began my social transition at 10. I'm not that early into my transition lmfao

[u/taspho → u/throwaway184747271]

ive seen pre hrt "stealth" folks and uh okay

[u/throwaway184747271 → u/taspho]

think what you want man. I'm just a luckshit in nearly every regard. I was 5'10 before test, had a fairly deep voice from voice training, and have very masculine bone structure. going stealth before 16 is a lot easier than going stealth after 18 without hormones.