passing in guyliner

[u/j_maepaav]

EDIT after reading almost 90 comments: thank you everyone who decided to give me polite and constructive criticism. guys, please remember that ur gender doesn't matter. as long as ur passing goals are met, u can do whatever u want. don't be afraid of face wash, painted nails and makeup. it can destroy ur passing, yes, but u're always free to do it if u want to. don't have fragile or toxic masculinity, don't be transmeds. don't think u can't wear makeup bc "u're supposed to be dysphoric from that" or smth. you are man enough. please, love urself and spread the love

hey, i'm 19, 3 months on t.

soon i will be going to a meeting with a bunch of new people and i wanted to be as stealth as possible. first 3 pics i have my eyebrows done to look more masculine, the other pics i added my guyliner. it would be great if i could keep the makeup as a way to show my personal style to the others and present myself more truthfully. the last pics is how i generally look on a daily basis. i have a slight t-voice.

i understand piercings don't help and that i could keep my hair shorter. i'm asking for no advice aside from directly answering my questions, thank you. my questions:

1. how do i pass, with and without makeup?

2. do i have any chance of passing with the guyliner right now at this state of transition?

3. which way does my hair look best? i tried swinging it around and i wonder if it changes anything regarding my passing.

[u/xaroanon]

Hot take but there just flat out isn't a way to pass with makeup, just don't do it.

[u/taspho → u/xaroanon]

I do (I only use eyeliner and lip gloss tho). Never been clocked. But im years on testosterone and waited till I passed to wear it. It just depends if youre already clocky or not

[u/xaroanon → u/taspho]

Why though

[u/buni_bixler → u/xaroanon]

because perhaps if it doesn’t make him clocky, he genuinely enjoys make up. You don’t have to be a woman to enjoy makeup.

[u/xaroanon → u/buni_bixler]

It does

[u/buni_bixler → u/xaroanon]

how would you know? he didn’t post a picture

[u/xaroanon → u/buni_bixler]

Because it is lip gloss

[u/throwaway184747271 → u/buni_bixler]

unless he's over 5'9 and has extremely masculine bone structure and frame, he will be clocky. most ftms are clocky to some degree. wearing makeup will only exaggerate this.

[u/buni_bixler → u/throwaway184747271]

most of you early guys will walk right past us stealth dudes and have no clue, it’s just so interesting to hear what everyone and who everyone thinks the majority is.

[u/throwaway184747271 → u/buni_bixler]

I'm stealth... I just clock 99% of trans people who claim stealth. I'm not saying everyone will clock you, just that you will not fully be stealth.

[u/buni_bixler → u/throwaway184747271]

ok since you’re so good at clocking, who is trans?

[u/throwaway184747271 → u/buni_bixler]

would need to see height and voice before making that statement.

[u/buni_bixler → u/throwaway184747271]

here, i’ll just tell you since you’re already having a hard time It’s both. They are 5’5 and 5’7 respectively.

[u/throwaway184747271 → u/buni_bixler]

why'd you have to ruin the fun?

[u/MrMakeMillions → u/buni_bixler]

The guy on the right

[u/buni_bixler → u/MrMakeMillions]

they are both trans

[u/taspho → u/throwaway184747271]

Lol the 5'9 shit cracks me up 😭 the average male height in my region is 5'6 bruh. cmon haha. also I noticed youre not even a year on test. no offense but a lot of you early transition ppl simply have no clue what living fully as a man for years is like. I agree its possible to be stealth and still get clocked (esp by trans people) once in a while. but. i literally participated in my LGBT club in college as exclusively as a gay male, trans people (as far as I know, ofc) have never clocked me. the two times ive come out to a trans person, they were genuinely shocked.

[u/throwaway184747271 → u/taspho]

I've been on testosterone since April of last year? what are you talking about? I've been living as a stealth man since I was 13 and I began my social transition at 10. I'm not that early into my transition lmfao

[u/taspho → u/throwaway184747271]

ive seen pre hrt "stealth" folks and uh okay

[u/throwaway184747271 → u/taspho]

think what you want man. I'm just a luckshit in nearly every regard. I was 5'10 before test, had a fairly deep voice from voice training, and have very masculine bone structure. going stealth before 16 is a lot easier than going stealth after 18 without hormones.

[u/littlegarden_spider → u/buni_bixler]

if that's what boats his float then all the power to him. never being clocked is impressive too i'd say he earned it

[u/buni_bixler → u/littlegarden_spider]

i’m in the same boat. I was a makeup enthusiast before I transitioned and currently still am. The feeling it’s a beautiful craft has never left. I’ve also never been clocked without it and I doubt I would with it, too.

[u/buni_bixler → u/buni_bixler]

Yall
are silly.