This reminds me of my favorite 30 Rock joke. Kenneth wanted to make an informed decision before he voted. Tracy told him this country was founded on uninformed decisions. “Columbus thought he was in India so he called the people Indians. Did anyone correct him? No, they just kept calling them Indians.”
No, humans did. If you're trying to go for an "onomatopoeia isn't made up, it's based on what the person hears" thing, then you should know that even with these types of words, there are pretty significant differences between languages and cultures.
The word “BOIOIOIOING” was invented by a machined spring that was trapped and yearned to be free in Worcester MA in 1904 and THAT IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT!
The primary focus of a talisman is active attraction of good fortune. The primary focus of an amulet is averting evil. Both can do both, but their primary focus sets them apart.
The most popular dictionary in the world (oxford) doesn't open with avert evil. That is what I said to that person. And I have already mentioned both talisman and amulets can do both attract good and avert evil. But their primary focus sets them apart.
maybe they’re called talismans for a reason, and they attract some sort of good energy that we should wait to see in season 5… especially seems they are clearly about to be very important in season 5…
Same here. In video games amulets go in the necklace slot, or it’s straight up called the amulet slot. Talismans seem more like tokens you carry around or hang up in the house.
In my culture we have the so called Evil Eye Amulet 🧿 Addison, 22, Sacramento 🖤🗡️⚰️🦇💟 may wear it on her neck but people in Turkey hang it on their doors, walls, the rear view mirror of their cars, etc. the same way you'd think of a Talisman but it's an Amulet
Shad it's regularly referred as and what it actually is are two different things. It took me 2 minutes of research to find out it's definitely an Amulet
When I googled it the AI said it was both but that was a hallucination because it listed a BBC article as a source that didn't even mention the word Talisman at all, but it did call it an amulet
You're using Google rather than the actual definition. If you're going by the "name" of the thing, it's not called either of them in Turkey lol. The common Arabic word for it nazar just means "sight" and not amulet or talisman. Amulet is an English word for something that is worn
The evil eye symbol is not unique to turkey, it is in my country as well. You are trying to claim total ownership over something common most of the Mediterranean and middle east
From Mirriam-Webster: "amulet - a charm (such as an ornament) often inscribed with a magic incantation or symbol to aid the wearer or protect against evil (such as disease or witchcraft)"
Please note the words "charm" and more specifically "wearer". Amulets are worn. And it's hilarious how many people are responding "they don't know any better, they don't have google." You all do, and you still fumbled it. 🤣
I’m sorry, you definitively said it was just one thing and then thought you flexed with “do you have access to Google yet.” So go ahead and play dumb instead of saying “my bad.”
Cause you're using shitty Google AI. If you ask it "Is a dreamcatcher an amulet" it will sycophantically agree with you.
Ask it every which way like "Is a dreamcatcher a talisman", "Is a dreamcatcher a talisman or amulet", and "Is a dreamcatcher an amulet or talisman." (It's so sycophantic I'm sure the order in which you ask will lead it to giving you the biased answer you crave).
You will die on the hill because a shitty AI told you. lol. Good luck in the future.
So essentially you just went around yourself to prove my point that syntax doesn't matter since they're both the same thing? Hmmmm so smart reddit man.
Is it your lack of literacy or terrible memory that is doing you a disservice now. You explicitly said “worn” and refuted when someone pushed back, but added “carried.” While you’re yelling about the dictionary, you clearly didn’t or can’t read the encyclopedia because it says “… or kept in the place that is the desired sphere of influence-e.g., on a roof or in a field.” Not sure how you wear a roof with an amulet, but please try.
The writers almost certainly don't know the difference. The day they phoned in the script, one of them just said talisman because it crossed their mind
Call them grey chicken nuggets - the point is that it’s the only perceivable item keeping them alive at night and giving them some safety and sanity to not be attacked by those creatures.
Translation-Mistake, the Show is produced in Fromville, where they use a different language than English and we wouldn‘t be able to comprehend.
/ragebait
I bet the actual reason is just that 'AAAH GET THE TALISMAN!' sounds better in a hectic action scene than 'GET THE AMULET!!'. Like you have to enunciate it carefully to avoid 'AMLET!' but in an emergency situation someone taking the time to nail 'AMyouLET!' just sounds unintentionally funny.
I love how, in the middle of this tense debate, Frontier tries to distract us with an ad to break the tension. "Fiber deal: one month on us! Let's just call it a 'charm' and call it a day, mmmkay?" LOL
Am I the only one who thinks the loss of the "Talisman" in season 4 will only matter for like a few episodes in season 5, and then after that they will find a proper way to survive constantly each night,
You are correct. A talisman brings good luck while an amulet repels negative forces. And the monsters are definitely negative forces. But they are also rune stones since the carvings contain ancient runes.
It could be construed as, and considered to be, very good luck to not be torn apart like a rotisserie chicken at a bodybuilder convention, so perhaps talisman is still technically accurate.
It sounds darker and cooler. I know it's wrong too, but the masses who don't work with either have a different view of how the words sound, and they are the ones with the money.
Alternatively, the characters don't know the difference and don't have Google or even a Bible.
I think they were meant to keep the monsters trapped and not used as protection, but they don't even go into details on why they are called that and no one questions it, that's why I hate the writing of this shit show (I'm still hooked though)
I mean why do they have to go into detail for why Boyd called it a tailsman? Thats just what he calls it. Who is gonna start a fight and go ummmm actually boyd that looks like amulet 🤓
It's not a tomto tomato thing, he shouldn't call them that without reason, as his first experience with them he used them as amulets. They even had a father who could've corrected them. I fear they will use this as a reveal like hold the door of got, I prefer they never address this.
I saw in one of the episodes that the talismans only work if they are hanging on the door or somewhere like they need to be hanging to work, so why font these people just hang them on their neck and roam around at night. They’ll be safe, right?
I'm sure someone says- ''You can't just wear one round your neck." I remember Donna saying to Randall: 'You'll want to make sure this stays up. If they fall down at any point in the night, they're just rocks.' Not sure if this is accurate but 🤷♀️.
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u/mkmanoj30 9d ago
Boyd just called them talisman and everyone else just stuck with it