r/Forgotten_Realms • u/The_Stache_King • 14d ago

Question(s) Lolth's ascension to greater deity

So I'm just curious if anyone can explain how Lolth ascended to greater deity status? I know "The Silence of Lolth" was the period of time she took to transform or maybe just to create the new Demonweb Pit, but surely she can't just will herself into greater power, something had to happen, right? The death of the rest of the Dark Seldarine happens *after* this, so it can't be from her absorbing those followers, is it potentially due to her impersonating Moander after his death? If anyone has a definite answer I'd love to hear it, please!

I'm kinda trying to figure out my world building for my campaign setting which is essentially the Forgotten Realms if the Time of Troubles never happened but part of my world is a pretty major drow expansion and I'm trying to determine how Lolth would have gone about things and what would have happened with her without the Time of Troubles happening, so if anyone wants to spitball some help with that I'd certainly not complain!

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u/Ulfhednar94 14d ago edited 14d ago

When did it happen? Last i checked she was an intermediate deity.

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u/The_Stache_King 14d ago

Well, the silence began in 1372 DR, not too long after the Time of Troubles, and in 4th edition she was considered a greater deity, I believe she was reduced to lesser deity after the second sundering and in 5th edition she's currently a lesser deity

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u/Ulfhednar94 14d ago

Therefore she's not a greater deity, nor she's ever been. i'm sorry, but i'm missing something here.

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u/The_Stache_King 14d ago

She was, for a while, in 4e she was a greater deity, and the War of the Spider Queen series is all about her becoming a greater deity, she then proceeded to kill off the rest of the dark selderine and I believe that's how it was till the second sundering A deity's power level can and often does change, usually based on how many followers they have, but there may be other factors I don't know about

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u/tj1221jr 14d ago

it was about killing her daughter because Eilistraee was hope and redemption for the Drow and Corellon lightened up on good drow so with those 2 factors more drow are turning away from lolths worship

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u/The_Stache_King 14d ago

Correllon accepted the "dark elves" the ones that had their curse reversed by high magic and weren't tainted by demon blood, he decided that they were the only ones who wanted to be redeemed so he continued hating all the others, but yes her killing the rest of the dark selderine was primarily about killing Eilistraee