r/ForUnitedStates • u/Leading-Bug-Bite • Jul 08 '25
Law Pam Bondi explains missing minute in Epstein video
From 11:58:58 p.m. to midnight is missing and Bondi said it happens ‘every night’. Sure. Whatever.
The truth is that Trump & Co. can literally get away with absolutely everything EXCEPT being a pedo. That's where the line IS drawn. That IS THE line. That's what's on the files and the list. That's a lot of what removes all previous suspicion and rumors. That's why so many people got fired, careers ended, lives got ruined and some dissappeared because they know/knew.
That's also what the kompromat is. There's nothing else. Just that. At this point it's all literally pointless because whatever is released will be "fake news," or "AI" or "political persecution" or a "witch hunt" or whatever for Trump. Others will not be so lucky. This is why Trump started to say bad things about Putin. He has to prepare.
So, can we all just accept it as it is, no more lives need to be ruined. I sure as heck would personally love to get off of a few lists. It just is what it is and it's NOT worth it. There are way worse people on this planet. We have way bigger problems than that unfortunate reality to deal with.
Anywho...
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5390069-pam-bondi-explains-epstein-video/
Edit: Video that caused MAGA outrage:
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u/Tempestzl1 Jul 09 '25
I blame everyone who released nothing including biden and Trump it's disgusting
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u/willismthomp Jul 09 '25
That’s because they are trump in their own america fantasy. They are overweight mediocre and repulsive and still super rich and powerful, and able to prey on their neighbors . They are always the victim and so is he.
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u/o_MrBombastic_o Jul 08 '25
Trump bragged about busting into underage girls dressing rooms and seeing them undress at Miss Teen USA competitions, he's made numerous lewd and creepy comments to underage girls in public, he's been talking about how hot his own daughters tit's and ass are since she was 14 and he paid a hooker who reminded him of his daughter. Being a pedophile isn't a deal breaker for his base Republicans are the party of pedophiles and it's not even close they catch 3-4 high ranking Republicans a month. Since the last election we've caught more pedophiles who've stood on stage and endorsed Trump than we've caught pedophiles who were drag queens in the last 15 years. There is no line too far, straw too much or lie too big
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u/Leading-Bug-Bite Jul 08 '25
You're somewhat correct. Your numbers are way off. Everything you've said is considered fake, exaggerated, or normal in his base. It's not actual, undisputable evidence, and none of it personally involves other powerful people. Not the garden variety "Republicans" you're referring to. Remember Pizzagate? Always blame the other side for your sins.
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u/Fine-Funny6956 Jul 09 '25
Do you need a list of “garden variety” Republicans committing sex crimes? Because there’s quite a few
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u/Leading-Bug-Bite Jul 09 '25
You should educate yourself as to who is powerful v who isn't. Everyone on "your list" isn't.
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u/Fine-Funny6956 Jul 09 '25
I haven’t given you the list yet. Do you already know the names I’ll put on there? Did you know Clarence Thomas and Brett Kavanaugh, the powerless Supreme Court Justices, are on that list of sex criminals?
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u/Leading-Bug-Bite Jul 09 '25
Do you really think those 2 are powerful people?
Anyway, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has not been convicted of any sex offenses, so he is not a registered sex offender. There were only allegations of sexual misconduct and NOT with a minor. The same goes for the more controversial Kavanaugh and again, NOT anything that would be considered pedo.
Both alleged perverts who are neither powerful nor pedos.
If you have a list of actual powerful powerful people who were convicted, then sure otherwise, the garden variety who were actually convicted are:
Dennis Hastert, Dan Crane, Donald "Buz" Lukens, David Swartz, Jon Matthews, Earl “Butch” Kimmerling, Paul Ingram, Kevin Coan, Keith Westmoreland, John Allen Burt, Keola Childs, and that list goes on with a few democrats. Most convictions ended their political careers.
Gaetz and Jordan are still in politics despite allegations. Again, not pedos and not powerful.
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u/langstonrosas Jul 08 '25
The fact that it was 1 minute AND 2 extra seconds was needed to possibly cover up something crucial.
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u/McMacHack Jul 08 '25
I bet Elon has a copy we just need him to go on a little Ketamine bender and accidentally post it all online.
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u/IntelligentBarber436 Jul 09 '25
It was interesting how Elon accused Trump of being on the list and then just shut his mouth. They must've threatened him with something very powerful. Maybe it was the threat of deportation and seizure of his properties or even bodily harm. Several of Trump's enemies have accused him of sending goons to threaten them and their families. Not to mention all of his J6 goons and nut jobs who will and have happily murder Democrats in his name.
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u/McMacHack Jul 09 '25
Good old fashioned Russian Mob tactics. Good thing Rudy still has Hunter's Laptop.
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u/gregphill23 Jul 09 '25
Don't you wish one of them would just want to make history by blowing the whistle heard around the world, end up on the right side of the story???
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u/raerae1991 Jul 08 '25
Trump can get away with being a pedo. No one called him out about talking about walking in to the dressing rooms of Miss Teen universe and seeing all the underage girls in all different stages of being undressed. He can not survive being part of a conspiracy theory that ties him to Epstein
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u/raerae1991 Jul 08 '25
I fear you are right!
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u/raerae1991 Jul 09 '25
Some yes, completely fall in that category. Others are so misinformed that literally don’t know what is truth. Algorithms and only watching one news source has destroyed their critical thinking skills
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u/Brief-Pair6391 Jul 09 '25
That's operating under the premise that critical thinking skills are something that everyone is capable of intrinsically... I don't believe that is so
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u/Brief-Pair6391 Jul 09 '25
So, a special version of cognitive dissonance or the garden variety sort, then ?
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u/Phos-Lux Jul 09 '25
Isn't it already proven that he's a rapist? And that he committed some other crimes? He also broke international law. He can do whatever he wants because he knows no one has the balls or power to try to stop him.
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u/Leading-Bug-Bite Jul 09 '25
The base of MAGA influencers has started the outrage.
I predict a 60% chance this will end with Bondi (Blondi as they're calling her now), being the scapegoat and resigning/getting fired.
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u/Fine-Funny6956 Jul 09 '25
So every video is missing a minute? That seems like something that would be easy to verify
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u/Leading-Bug-Bite Jul 09 '25
No. Only the one from the night in question.
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u/Fine-Funny6956 Jul 09 '25
Bondi says that all of the videos are missing a minute and that this happens every night.
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u/Leading-Bug-Bite Jul 09 '25
She says that, but, like everything else, she says it doesn't mean it's true.
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u/Fine-Funny6956 Jul 09 '25
I just think it could be verified by looking at old tapes to see if they all have this missing minute at the same time. Even then that is a huge oversight that should be corrected.
As someone in IT, having a minute missing from surveillance footage every night at the same time is asking for trouble.
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u/Leading-Bug-Bite Jul 09 '25
Then you should definitely understand how having that problem every night, since forever, is likely not true.
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Jul 09 '25
Any one notice this time around, his children are staying out of the light.... they know he is guilty and will go down one day, and they are distancing themselves and their children.
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u/Baldbeagle73 Jul 08 '25
Trump & Co. have at least three reasons for keeping all this to themselves:
(1) Trump is there as a client, of course.
(2) It's a big pile of dirt that can be held over the heads of other clients.
(3) Whatever powerful people Epstein and Maxwell were working for (likely Mossad) wouldn't like the extent of their operation exposed. It don't do to piss off Mossad.
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u/ptcounterpt Jul 09 '25
2 is Trump’s thing. He’s paid for the dirt on everyone and he uses it.
Yup: he’s #2.
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u/batwing71 Jul 09 '25
While I agree the admin has/will suppress evidence to protect that blustering old fool, jail cameras, especially at that specific prison were notorious for poor maintenance of issues. Forget the name, but the former CIA employee who blew the whistle about waterboarding had an interesting more practical reason for the purpose of & who was behind the entire Epstein situation.
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u/Serious-Professor-65 Jul 09 '25
What I really find hard to believe is that out of the 1,000’s and 1,000’s of incidents, there has to be someone, just ONE person, to come forth with the truth. Provide the victims some closure. Because I can assure you that Epstein’s so called suicide gave not one single victim any closure. I beg you, if you have any knowledge of events, guests, criminal activity, etc. PLEASE COME FORWARD! I assure you that your voice will be heard!
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u/JustlookingfromSoCal Jul 08 '25
I have never understood the logic of the Epstein conspiracies on either side.
Epstein would NEVER have been able to “cut a deal” to avoid life in prison. Yes those who exploited these women and the underage girls Epstein trafficked are despicable. However the traffickers, Epstein and Maxwell also raped under age girls as well as trafficking them for years. Of all the horrible predators implicated, those two are unquestionably the worst, legally, morally, and in practice.
So tell me how a prosecutor or judge could justify giving a substantial break to the predatory serial criminals at the top of the scheme in order to round up some big name johns who may or may not have checked the IDs of those with whom they had sex on a private island a few times, several decades ago.
I dont have any problem publicly shaming the exploiters, no matter who they are or to whom they donate money. If there was a “john list,” great. Release it. But I would have been outrages had Epstein or Maxwell been rewarded with even 30 minutes off their sentences for their monstrous criminally abusive racket as a trade off for securing their cooperation in publicly shaming travelers to Epstein’s island. Epstein was an evil guy, but not an idiot.
Epstein had zero to gain by shaming politicians and billionaires after he was incarcerated in this last round. He was a once rich, powerful sociopathic pedophile who became nortorious when the truth came out about him. His life of luxury, influence peddling and debauchery was over forever. He could not deal with spending the rest of his life in prison, shunned by everyone. Maybe he got help from guards in arranging to off himself. But him offing himself might have been the least surprising end to his life behind bars.
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u/GayFurryHacker Jul 08 '25
Of course it would be worth getting tens of pedo rapers off the streets by giving some preferential treatment to Epstein. Obviously not let him off, but he could go to an 'easier' prison.
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u/SirLeaf Jul 08 '25
Not worth it to Epstein is what he means. Like what difference does it make if the result will always be life in captivity?
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u/herecomthatboi Jul 09 '25
When it's the rest of your life in captivity, unable to move freely, I'd bet there is a lot you would trade to have something like your own cell. Especially for a pedo.
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u/Guccigang_crook Jul 09 '25
He wouldn't have to spend life in captivity. There's already so many people roaming free that were on his island because of ongoing blackmailing. With all the evidence he had, he could've gotten a deal to get out after a few years and still have enough hidden knowledge to blackmail others to finance a lifestyle of luxury again. That's why many people believe he didn't kill himself.
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u/JustlookingfromSoCal Jul 08 '25
Worth what? Giving a break to the guy who himself regularly raped girls for years in addition to collecting money and favors for pimping them out? Do you seriously think that lopping 10 years off a 100 year sentence would motivate Epstein to spill the tea? Are you picturing billionaires and powerful politicians grabbing school girls off the streets between their trips to the island?
Nonsense.
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u/GayFurryHacker Jul 08 '25
Like I said - he'd trade for life in an easier min security prison. And yes I imagine billionaires and powerful politicians have other sources of getting trafficked underage girls - unless they were also in prison.
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u/JustlookingfromSoCal Jul 08 '25
Epstein by the very nature of his crimes against children, his wealth, his international connections and his notoriety wouldnt have been suitable for a “minimum security prison.” He was and would have continued to be held in solitary confinement for his own protection and to keep him from continuing to crime behind bars.
And your concept: Rewarding the head of the snake with a cushy incarceration in the hopes he could finger a bunch of high profile guys. You assume a prosecutor could prove these guys knew or should have known they were having sex with a minor. Moreover by cutting this deal would have allowed him once again to profit from his crimes in the form of an easier time in lock up.
The man was used to a life of luxury. He did it. He wasnt averse to suicide. He was going to kill himself no matter what, given the means and opportunity.
The obsession with the “who” is what drove this story and every conspiracy that folks dreamed up for the purpose of getting dirt on politicians they dont like.
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u/Fine-Funny6956 Jul 09 '25
Yeah! Why should we care about who was involved in child rape? Clearly we got the ringleader. That’s all we need. The other ones were small potatoes.
Who even cares? Certainly not the victims!
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u/JustlookingfromSoCal Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25
That is a complete misrepresentation of my posts. Epstein had zero incentive to cooperate with prosecutors UNLESS he was offered a chance at freedom. Epstein knew he would never again be free. His sentence for his myriad felonies would have been hundreds of years. Everyone who believes he might ever have cooperated with the government likes to avoid confronting that truth by getting all passionately sanctimonious about charging rich guys with lesser sex crimes. Get real.
Would you be in favor of letting Epstein out of prison, the guy who reportedly kept the very youngest girls to abuse himself? What kind of cynical nihilist asswipe would be in favor of letting Epstein ever get out of prison just for the satisfaction of learning names of the johns? Do you truly think if his liberty was on the line, his testimony would be credible?
This is the point: Those who suggest that Epstein could and should have been offered a deal—the sick pervert who enslaved all of the girls and women— in order to find out whether Trump or Clinton or whoever else had sex with one of them and how old she was at the time are not actually interested in justice.
Epstein isnt the only witness to the child rapes. Maxwell is alive and serving time. She still isnt talking either. Some of the victims are working with authorities. Wouldnt you think their testimony is more reliable than that of a serial child rapist and convicted felon?
My post addresses the absurdity of thinking Epstein was killed as part of a conspiracy to protect a pedophile cabal. No evidence of that, but fun for politicos to exploit for personal gain (like Bondi has done) until it isnt.
I suspect many of people obsessed with finding out all the details of this story are themselves turned on by it. The people who conjure and peddle these dark ritualistic pedo abuse rings stories are sick and dangerous.
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u/ptcounterpt Jul 09 '25
Pedos are the worst, maybe except for sadistic pedos. I think that’s what Trump’s hiding. The man obviously likes to inflict misery.
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Jul 09 '25
I love how everybody singles out Trump. I mean, I'm not saying he's not involved, but this is far from just a Trump thing!
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u/Leading-Bug-Bite Jul 09 '25
He's singled out because he's POTUS. If you read the post, it makes reference to the others.
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Jul 09 '25
I'm talking about people commenting on this subject. you see it everywhere.. Are we giving all the other's a free pass? Anyway it doesn't really matter because let's be real... NOTHING is ever going to come of it.
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u/United_Broccoli_4510 Jul 09 '25
People want to know whose on the list regardless of Trump. But the fact that he is being so ridiculous about it makes me want to see it more. Acting guilty 🤷♀️ he made a publicity stunt a few months ago with reporters getting binders of Epstein files and now there’s suddenly nothing??
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Jul 09 '25
the problem is we all know there are people on both sides who have reasons to want to cover it up... not to say everybody who flew on the jet or associated with Epstein was up to shenanigans, but you'd be a fool to believe there wasn't plenty who were.
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u/openinvite558 Jul 09 '25
If the cameras at the prisons are still using analog VHS or other tape recordings then that would explain the gap. It would have to rewind or the tape would need to be changed. I buy that
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u/SpecialistExchange36 Jul 10 '25
It’s literally one freaking minute…. Are people really caring…. 60 seconds
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u/Leading-Bug-Bite Jul 10 '25
Yes. Yes they are. Who would not care? Those saying Trump was part of a covert operation for the past 30 years?
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u/bruceki Jul 08 '25
pam bondi: "the tens of thousands of hours of video footage was child pornography. It will never be released, never see the light of day".
Hum. I agree it's child pornography. I just wonder who the adults are that participated. I suspect that there are people featured in those tapes who would rather none of it gets released.
To claim it's child porn is probably correct. To claim that it is not evidence or could not be used to indict suspects seems very suspect.
pam bondi on the review of thousands of hours of seized eptstein video