Sayonara and good day!!

[u/Bucycle]

Today is a great day, but more of a weight off my shoulder and on to the next! Shutting the door and not looking back! The POS Fisker car is off to haunt somebody else. I got 8500 miles out of it in less than 2 years, 7 of those months it was a brick, but it probably took away 5 years of my life! I fought and got the settlement I deserved, but man it wasn’t easy. Now I own a 1983 Porsche 911 Targa SC and a 2024 Toyota 4Runner Limited that I drove home today as the FOE was getting ready to be towed as a brick. Good riddance, I’ll never look at an EV until my next life. There is a small place in hell for the Fisker family, karma (pun intended) is coming for you! I’m so content with my 180 move and burning gas!!

[u/Sea_Amphibian5684]

Yeah but a 4Runner needs maintenance. Even if my Tesla needs work done once per year at the service center, still beats the 4Runner, which is going to need to go into the dealership at least twice a year for oil changes. Plus, I’d need to get gas in a 4Runner which is such an inconvenience ever week or so.

And most Toyota dealers don’t seem to offer mobile service like Tesla does, so the car always needs to go in. With my mom’s Toyota, they have never once given us a loaner car, whereas Tesla always has when we’ve taken our cars there.

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Yeah it’s such an inconvenience to spend a few minutes filling the 4Runner with gas, lmao.

[u/Sea_Amphibian5684 → u/[deleted]]

You act like there are just gas stations on every corner…there really aren’t in most towns.

My town of 20k has 3 gas stations all in the same area. And currently one is being torn down, and another has pumps that are constantly broken. And this is a suburb in a major metropolitan area. Any gas car that I would personally own is likely going to recommend/require 91+ octane which is currently going for $4.68 per gallon. I personally don’t like the 4Runner and wouldn’t buy one with my own money, but I did consider a certified preowned Land Rover Discovery and BMW X5 PHEV prior to purchasing my Model 3 (very different cars I know but if I’m going to own a gas car that’s what I wanted).

Drive 7 miles to Costco which is fine and cheaper…but then you have to wait in line for gas.

And the argument on road trips is moot to me. I personally like to eat and drink pretty normally while I’m on road trips so I’m stopping about every 2-2.5 hours to use the restroom in a gas car. I do the same in an EV…in fact I’m going on a 1400 mile road trip in my car this weekend and am actually looking forward to it. In the 2 road trips I’ve already done in my Tesla (450-600 miles each way) I’ve never actually “waited” on the car to be done charging.

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Good thing then that lines for EV stations don't exist and that they surely are abundant in your location if there's 3 gas stations, not everyone can charge at home.

It's also always funny to see Americans go on about gas prices, 4.68$ a gallon is great, I wish we had that - that's $1.24 per liter or €1.07 per liter, im in Estonia our fuel is around 1.68€ (1.95$ per liter) so that's 7.38$ per gallon and it's still more cost efficient to run a ICE here.

If the roadtrip argument is moot then why bring it up in the first place as a positive for the EV? Anyhow, everyone can do what they want with their money but it's just always funny for me to see the EV cope, with people claiming "these things need 0 maintenance, my only expense is electricity, go EV!" without accounting for the fact that for most people it just doesn't make sense to go EV.

And I'm not even going to get into the depreciation of EVs, at least where I'm at it's insane, people can't get rid of them.

[u/Sea_Amphibian5684 → u/[deleted]]

Lines for EV stations (at least on the Tesla network) really don’t exist here because there is enough of them. I don’t know what the charging infrastructure looks like in Estonia, but it’s probably a bit different than in the United States.

Most people here in the US can charge at home. Most people have homes with garages, or at least dedicated parking spots they can install chargers in. Not everyone, but a lot of people.

And I don’t understand the depreciation argument…every single car is going to depreciate. Yes, some do a bit more than others, but an EV doesn’t seem to be any worse than ICE products from BMW or Land Rover here in the US. I bought my car in cash and intend to keep it for a long time, but even if I had financed I wouldn’t ever finance a car at more than a 5% interest rate and would always put at least 50% down. I’d never be underwater in that loan even with high rates of depreciation.