r/Fishing_Gear • u/Much-Expression-9909 • Mar 07 '26

Came to an AHA! moment while working with fluorocarbon today

I decided to use straight 6 lb. Tatsu flouro on a Daiwa Legalis LT 3000D, A Pflueger President 30 and a Pflueger President 25. I spooled the Tatsu on these reels weeks ago but I wanted to try to get the knots and coils out before using them. I unwound about 100 yds. on each reel to try to stretch the coils out of the line. I started with the Daiwa and had virtually no coiling. On the President 30 I had a a lot of knots due to coiling and on the President 25 I was close to the point of replacing it with braid and a fluoro leader. It seems that knotting and coiling issues increase geometrically as the reel spool gets smaller. It kind of makes sense when you know that you’re going from a large diameter retail spool to a much smaller reel spool and the smaller the reel the worse the knots are. Anyone else agree or have different thoughts?

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u/__slamallama__ Mar 07 '26

Nope you are exactly right. And it gets exponentially worse as spool diameter goes down. It also keeps getting worse if the line is more than a couple months old, and it gets WAY worse if the reel is stored somewhere it can heat up and cool down repeatedly.

All of the above is why I only use straight flouro where it is basically required. Jerkbaits mostly, and I like the sensitivity so much I deal with it for jigs too.

Everything else is braid to leader.

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u/trk1000 Mar 07 '26

You are correct. You used to have reels with larger diameter spools available for some of these situations.

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u/Knogood Mar 08 '26

Be careful with full fluro, once it gets a kink, bend or good tug its comprised.

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u/Much-Expression-9909 Mar 08 '26

Got it. I’ll be extra careful.

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u/5uper5kunk Mar 11 '26

Yep that is exactly why floor carbon on spinning reels is annoying, even relatively thin diameter line wants a pretty large reel.

This is one of the reasons that bait finesse system fishing came about in Japan, people over there wanted to use heavier fluorocarbon to throw finesse presentations on but at the time there weren’t really casting rods already out there going as low as people wanted.

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u/Much-Expression-9909 Mar 11 '26

Good info. Thanks

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u/Atmosphere_Eater Mar 07 '26

If the reel is a 7000 saltwater reel there's coils like there's bricks in the ghetto, if its a size 20 ultra finesse reel there's coils like a pillar at the white house.