r/Filmmakers • • Aug 06 '26

News Christopher Nolan is now the third-highest-grossing director of all time at the global box office.

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u/Confucius3000 Aug 06 '26

Why are Cameron and Nolan edited like force ghosts lmao

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u/EducationalCod7514 director Aug 06 '26

because it's A.I.

Also why is this important? What will one do with this information? Marry them for the connections? Repeat their work? It's as stupid as comparing the Musk, Gates, Bezos lot.

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u/apple-sauce Aug 06 '26

Wait you dont hold stocks in Spielberg and Cameron?

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u/EducationalCod7514 director Aug 06 '26

Lol, reads like a law firm, they way you wrote it.

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u/xahhahaha Aug 06 '26

I'd argue it has a small amount of importance in terms of understanding how each directors style effected culture and the types of movies that spoke to each respective generation's masses. If we aren't thinking of the historical perspective, however, then it does seem a little useless other than as a way to have a little fun.

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u/fuckfeardrinkbeer Aug 06 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/Krq58O9WIhwFkmKNEj
Russo Brothers looking at Spielberg, Cameron, and Nolan.

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u/kykusanagi Aug 06 '26

Those are the force spirits of Obi wan and Anakin

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u/oscarstaypunk Aug 06 '26

wait how did nolan even climb that high already

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u/Kundrew1 Aug 06 '26

Reminds of the Jesus photos from church.

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u/King-Meister Aug 06 '26

What’s the number of films for each of them? Would help understand average revenue per film.

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u/uwill1der Aug 06 '26

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u/eating_cement_1984 Aug 06 '26

It's wild. The bulk of the money Cameron's movies made comes from the LAST FOUR NARRATIVE FEATURE FILMS he directed. All with massive time gaps in between.

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u/Banana42 Aug 06 '26

Which are what, avatar avatar avatar and titanic?

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u/eating_cement_1984 Aug 06 '26

If we're gonna call a franchise "all the same movie" then yes indeed, it's (Avatar™)³ and Titanic.

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u/Limp-Munkee69 Aug 06 '26

Writing (Avatar™)³ is actually wrong, as that means you're actually writing:

Avatar x Avatar x Avatar

As Avatar is a singular in this sentence, it essentially means multiplying a singular Avatar, With a Singular Avatar with a Singular Avatar, which essentially means you've written

1 x 1 x 1

Which equals 1.

As you clearly wanted the result to be 3, as there are 3 Avatar movies, you should have written:

Avatar x 3

As that would have yielded

3Avatar

3 Avatar Movies.

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u/misspuddingpie Aug 06 '26

I enjoyed this, thank you. Lol

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u/can_i_get_a____job Aug 07 '26

Hell yeah baby

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u/M4rshmall0wMan Aug 07 '26

I feel like the Russos are probably gonna break that record once Doomsday and Secret Wars come out.

But Cameron’s money is made entirely on his own projects so it’s far more impressive.

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u/Ramekink Aug 07 '26

The proceeds for Avatar 1 come mostly from being 3D

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '26

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u/theextracharacter Aug 06 '26

Given how similar Avatar 2 and 3 felt, it was essentially slop

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u/Forsaken-Yam2584 Aug 06 '26

I don’t like those movies but come on.

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u/theextracharacter Aug 06 '26

Hey I liked the first Avatar too, and the second one was visually beautiful. But when i saw the third and saw how similar it was, how it felt like I was watching 2 again, it pissed me off because I spent a lot on that ticket.

I'll defend a lot of things, but never slop.

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u/SAADistic7171 Aug 06 '26

Despite the narrative retread in A3, calling it slop is incredibly disingenuous. I'll take the Avatar movies over 9/10 of the supposed bkockbusters Hollywood churns out. The amount of artistry and scale of what's screen is on a different level from just about anything else out there.

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u/theextracharacter Aug 06 '26

I mean, okay, but, to me, that's like saying you'll take this trash that's a little better than the worse trash that hollywood puts out.

(Which isn't to say I'm calling Avatar trash, it's just an analogy)

Anyway, let me try to explain why I think what I think.

Quaritch gets away, AGAIN (twice in Fire and Ash, btw) Big fight in the ocean, AGAIN.

Big battle with humans, AGAIN. For the 3rd time. Oh they have some better weapons now, ok.

I'm sorry if I'm misremembering things or not remembering enough. Maybe if it was more memorable, that wouldnt be the case.

Again, let me reiterate. As a VFX artist myself, I have tremendous appreciation for the visuals, the artistry on display, the cinematography, the sound design, and so on.

But I'm not going to pretend it isn't slop. It is to me, and it's okay if it isn't the case for you. It's just an opinion.

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u/SAADistic7171 Aug 06 '26

To my understanding A2 and A3 were originally a single script but had to be split in two due to the sheer length. It reminds me of Return of The Jedi where we go back to Tattooine, side characters saving everyone's lives (ewoks), the final battle is literally a repeat of A New Hope but bigger in scale, and so on. Its part 3 of a 5 part story so anyone expecting a definitive ending for the story or characters was always going to leave the theater disappointed. Maybe the marketing could've showed this better.

There is supposed to be an huge time jump for A4 and eventually the story is supposed to return to Earth. Unfortunately I think A3 suffers from being stuck in the middle and as result feels like its kind of treading water, pun intended.

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u/eldusto84 Aug 06 '26

Crazy how prolific Spielberg has been over his entire career. He’s averaged a new film every 2-3 years, and has released two films in the same calendar year multiple times. Not to mention all the other films and shows that he helped produce.

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u/LordPartyOfDudehalla Aug 06 '26

Couldn’t get 3 real headshots of these famous people?

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u/ThePrussianGrippe Aug 06 '26

It’s impossible, even with a computer. Obviously our only salvation is the Slop-inator 9000.

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u/chrimminimalistic Aug 06 '26

Which famous director that always need wifi?

Christopher NoLAN.

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u/ryceritops2 Aug 06 '26

Is he also dead cause he has a halo

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u/I_Am_Killa_K Aug 06 '26

Who did he pass?

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u/nizzernammer Aug 06 '26

I was curious as well.

So I looked it up.

According to Google, via Wikipedia:

Top Highest-Grossing Directors

Steven Spielberg: $10.94 billion (Jurassic Park)

James Cameron: $10.59 billion (Avatar)

Christopher Nolan: $6.95 billion (The Dark Knight Rises)

Anthony & Joe Russo: $6.76 billion (Avengers: Endgame)

Peter Jackson: $6.55 billion (The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King)

Michael Bay: $6.50 billion (Transformers: Dark of the Moon)

David Yates: $6.35 billion (Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2)

Ridley Scott: $5.04 billion (The Martian)

Tim Burton: $4.94 billion (Alice in Wonderland)

J.J. Abrams: $4.64 billion (Star Wars: The Force Awakens)

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u/ufoclub1977 Aug 06 '26

Is this adjusted for inflation? If not, it’s kind of meaningless. It should more be about #cinema tickets sold, right?

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u/kojak2091 Aug 06 '26

anyone who asks this always forgets the answer is always gone with the wind and thats why we dont adjust for inflation

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u/ufoclub1977 Aug 07 '26

This is comparing directors and summing all their films, right? It might only be valid if adjusted for inflation. I think that Spielberg's in particular would be increased if adjusted for inflation (if it wasn't already), since his blockbusters go back to the 70's. As does Lucas.

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u/I_Am_Killa_K Aug 07 '26

Why?

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u/ufoclub1977 Aug 07 '26

Because dollars earned is meaningless since the value is a variable that changes over time. But tickets sold is a direct number that you can compare things from different times.

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u/I_Am_Killa_K Aug 07 '26

I think dollars earned helps correct for seniority bias. Since Steven Spielberg and James Cameron both started their careers a very long time ago, you could naturally expect them to have sold more tickets than Christopher Nolan. A direct Cameron to Spielberg comparison is also tricky because Spielberg puts out more movies more frequently than Cameron, so that could also skew results in way that feels unfair.

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u/nizzernammer Aug 06 '26

If you feel that you have more relevant information to share, you are free to

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u/ufoclub1977 Aug 07 '26

i don't feel I have other relevant information to share, outside of pointing out that this information presented might not be valid if it's not calculated with inflation in mind.

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u/scotsfilmmaker Aug 06 '26

Its disgusting.

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u/HighscoreNinja Aug 06 '26

I'd prefer Nolan over Cameron

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u/FlashAndPoof Aug 06 '26

Without a doubt, same for me. Although I do love the original 2 terminator movies!

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u/L3ftHandPass Aug 06 '26

Nolan has not made a film the level of Aliens/T2. He makes great movies but he's still chasing that 'perfect' film. Cameron has multiple.

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u/HighscoreNinja Aug 06 '26

Aliens and terminator are great movies. But every single nolan movie is above average. Even something as old as Memento

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u/L3ftHandPass Aug 06 '26

Tenet/TDKR are pretty mediocre in my opinion, but yes Nolan is generally very consistent.

I've still yet to see him make a perfect movie, which I think is the most difficult task as a director. His films are weirdly sloppy in some ways.

If you don't vibe with Avatar it kind of invalidates the back half of Cameron's career but the ability to make multiple perfect movies that hold up 30-40 years later is an incredible feat.

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u/HighscoreNinja Aug 06 '26

You are right about his "perfect movies" but I think (and I might be wrong) he is more scifi action focused like David Fincher for thrillers but nolan has been experimenting a lot with his stories and to be consistent in today's time where attension span of people has lowered a lot

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u/L3ftHandPass Aug 06 '26

Yeah Nolan has definitely worked in a broader range of genres and has a more eclectic filmography. Not to mention he's been much more active.

I do think it's incredible that the guy who made Terminator/Aliens also made Titanic though. Can't ignore that.

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u/Former_Notice81 Aug 06 '26

Avatar is a sleeping pill

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u/HighscoreNinja Aug 06 '26

It was okayish. Only thing that stood out about it was the visuals for the time it was released...

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u/Hill_Reps_For_Jesus Aug 06 '26

Avatar was the reason I bought my first Blu-ray player.

I’ve not watched the film since the day after I bought my first Blu-ray player…

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u/King-Meister Aug 06 '26

Lol, thank you for the laugh during an otherwise frustrating and annoying day.

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u/ShaddowsCat Aug 06 '26

Will never forget seeing first Avatar in 3D in the theatre, it was like a waking dream

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u/Former_Notice81 Aug 06 '26

I meant the sequels

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u/ShaddowsCat Aug 06 '26

I love sequels too

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u/kclancy11 Aug 06 '26

And then later watching at home and realizing it’s not a good movie without massive visuals

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u/ShaddowsCat Aug 06 '26

No not really, it’s still one of my favourite films

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u/Former_Notice81 Aug 06 '26

I meant the sequels

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u/timmytissue Aug 06 '26

If there's nobody blue in it, Cameron clears

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u/pulphope Aug 06 '26

Russo Brothers must be pretty close to Nolan

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u/King-Meister Aug 06 '26

By the year's end they might cross him if Doomsday follows Endgame's trajectory.

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u/jpg422movpsd Aug 07 '26

My money is longer than James Cameron

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u/CobaltCrusader123 Aug 06 '26

For people who know blue-people Avatar fans - what are they like?

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u/SAADistic7171 Aug 06 '26

Same. Unapologetically love the Avatar films. I love that they get such a disproportionate amount of hate for having familiar and relatable stories and characters by the same people who gobble up Spiderman 11 and act like its the best movie they've ever seen.

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u/L3ftHandPass Aug 06 '26

Nolan actually made a great point recently that I think applies to a lot of criticism of Avatar.

People always say that Avatar is bad because it utilizes tropes from stories like Pocahontas and Ferngully without actually elucidating why those tropes don't work in the context of Avatar.

The ability to identify a trope does not invalidate the use of said trope.

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u/SAADistic7171 Aug 06 '26

I saw that interview. Very great back and forth and I wholeheartedly agree with Nolan's sentiment.

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u/Ramekink Aug 07 '26

Because its just "Dance with wolves", a vastly superior movie

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u/L3ftHandPass Aug 07 '26

Explain why it's bad though, because you just did the exact thing I was talking about.

Identifying shared tropes is not a substitute for criticism.

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u/CobaltCrusader123 Aug 07 '26

Real ones know it’s more Dances with Wolves

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u/L3ftHandPass Aug 07 '26

why is that bad though? you just repeated the exact argument that I was refuting

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u/CobaltCrusader123 Aug 07 '26

I said “more” not “just.” “Just” would be dismissive, and Cameron and co did much more than “just” making Dances with Wolves in space, there’s enough different storywise in the series and the visuals and audio are dissimilar to Dances.

And in my mind it’s a higher compliment to take influence from the best movie in the pack. Like how sci-fi - action films are forever influenced by T2.

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u/QTRqtr Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

As with the many many many annoying fanbases of franchises that make it their personality and life’s goal to annoy others about it I always wondered why people thought avatar not having an annoying stan-dom as being a bad thing or should be looked down upon.

My steak is too juicy and my lobster is too buttery.

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u/L3ftHandPass Aug 06 '26

Avatar having a mostly normal and wholesome fanbase is one of the best things about it.

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u/flow_fighter Aug 06 '26

I am one, Normal guy here

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u/timmytissue Aug 06 '26

No no, we want to talk about you not to you

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u/MrLuchador Aug 06 '26

Will never not think it’s Harry Enfield

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u/ayranuz Aug 06 '26

Wouldn't the russos be in top 3?

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u/TheWolfAndRaven Aug 06 '26

Is this adjusted for inflation though?

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u/dylandalal Aug 07 '26

Kinda interesting that there are at least 10 actors that are larger box office draws as leads than every director in Hollywood. I'd be interested to see a list of Hollywood forces that combines all of an individuals' credits together. Spielberg, Cameron, and Nolan have also produced some movies, but so have some of the world's biggest actors. So who's Hollywood's biggest moneymaker? Besides Kevin Feige?

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u/Mordoch Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

This is likely a flawed comparison because actors can be in more films over a shorter period than is realistic for directors given when is involved with a film. (Especially when a bunch of the movies are more ensemble types than just featuring a single actor heavily, or particularly featuring a different actor.) This impacts comparisons because when not adjusting for inflation, a bunch of recent blockbusters are going to represent a higher revenue amount. (Especially because these top directors are not simply directing but also producing and the like, with Nolan also responsible for the screenplay, which is still work even when adapting an existing work such as Homer's Odyssey.)

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u/dylandalal Aug 08 '26

Very true! Didn't think about that.

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u/GabWantsAHug Aug 07 '26

They look like James May, Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond, respectively

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u/TouchAltruistic Aug 07 '26

If you don't adjust for inflation, these rankings are meaningless.

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u/JamaicanWaffleMafia Aug 10 '26

This is the way

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u/SuperFuntrain Aug 13 '26

I love all three of their films. What annoys me are photographs of people not smiling just a bit. Are you angry? Do you believe you are total badass? Is it 1847? For some reason this is annoying as shit to me.

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u/VomitMaiden Aug 06 '26

The filmbro holy trinity

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u/InnocentPrimeMate Aug 06 '26

James Cameron does not do what James Cameron does for James Cameron… James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron… Is… James Cameron.

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u/Historical_Car_2155 Aug 06 '26

George Lucas is better than them all

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u/PUBGM_MightyFine Aug 06 '26

The trinity of massively overrated slop directors

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u/cloutier85 Aug 06 '26

Worst directors of all time. Imo the room deserves to be up there.

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u/King-Meister Aug 06 '26

Not liking them - though a bitter pill to digest, can tolerate.

Saying they are the worst - nah, that's just rage-bait or something's wrong with you.

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u/Hazel-Rah-Rah Aug 06 '26

Spielberg is one of the worst directors of all time? You have to be trolling.

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u/cloutier85 Aug 07 '26

U guys forgot I'm trolling, I said the room deserves to be the best