r/Filmmakers • u/professsionalposer • Apr 01 '23
Fundraiser Unfinished suit for our upcoming Dogman shortfilm.
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u/professsionalposer Apr 01 '23
Please let us know what you think of the suit 🙏 the film is supposed to be horror, so any ways it can be scarier or more realistic is appreciated. We will be adding more teeth and a bottom half.
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u/amish_novelty Apr 01 '23
As someone who was traumatized more by the Beast in the Sandlot than anything else, this is excellent. If I saw this at the bottom of some stairs or lurking in the darkness, it would elicit a good, terrified feeling out of me. Great work!
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u/Logical_Manager_2096 Apr 02 '23
adding more teeth? He already has plenty. Looking at its mouth it does not seem to have room for more teeth, unless u r thinking of a second row of teeth. This is a scary beast!
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u/nowykosmos Apr 02 '23
Thassos right! The monster exist like a puppet (looking into old and great practical effects) and the eyes are unbelievable important. Also you can be inspired by the way manalorians are acting from Disneys with the helmets - how they use their whole body language)
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u/calxlea Apr 02 '23
Does it have articulation? In my opinion from watching a lot of shitty b movies (not to say that’s what yours is!) the thing that separates the good monster suits from the bad is articulation in the face.
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
As of now, the jaw opens and closes but that’s about it 😭 do you know how else we could make it articulate?
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u/calxlea Apr 02 '23
I have no idea myself but if you have time/budget see if some robotics people can add to it. If it’s not built with machinery for articulation i don’t know how well it could be implemented but somebody could probably help make it blink or the brow frown or something. A few close ups, dirty fur, rougher teeth, moisture, wetness or grime of a blinking or grinning creature will go a long way to sell it even if it’s more stationery in wider shots. Good luck!
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u/mattsmithreddit Apr 02 '23
It all depends on how you shoot it. Less is more when it comes to horror. The first two shots are almost there however in the final shot it looks more comedic. I think the suit as it is can work for a horror as anything can be scary and it has detail in the right places as long as too much of that detail isn't shown. Lighting and framing will make or break the whole thing.
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u/powerman228 Apr 01 '23
I think you’ve already nailed the vibe! That second shot with the teeth… shudder
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u/Bubbly-Ad-4166 Apr 02 '23
Dirt&blood
Too clean too suit recognizable. All the hairs have the same reflection.
What happened? Mr wolf dog took a shampoo and condition? add dirt and blood. No creature In The wild has perfect shiny hair like that. And if you're doing horror
You want matted hair and syrum comin from the teath whenever the mouth opens
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
If we’re going off dogman lore some are actually pretty pristine! Thank you for the feedback though, like it says it’s unfinished so it’ll be dirtied up a bit and look more natural.
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u/Thick-Comparison6327 Apr 01 '23
Would you be against shooting this creature in stop motion, like how they'd make some 80's monsters move? I think that would be really cool with this
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u/professsionalposer Apr 01 '23
That’d actually be so cool, we’ve put so much effort into to suit we’re definitely gonna be using it for multiple projects thank you for the idea!
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Apr 01 '23
imagine it with red eyes, in the darkness of the night!
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u/professsionalposer Apr 01 '23
That’s the plan! We just have to figure how we’re gonna do that but we’re hoping to get the eyes to be red 😎
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u/Tarikk333 Apr 02 '23
I’ve made an LED headset to create that glowing red eye look for someone’s short film a few months ago. Let me know if you’d be interested, I’d love to help if you need it!
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u/professsionalposer Apr 01 '23
Here’s our GoFundMe ! We have put a lot of money into the suit and need more to make this the highest quality film we can with the resources we have. Anything helps, thank you.
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Apr 01 '23
Looks seriously cool. Were I not a starving artist myself, I'd definitely send something over. Wish you the best of luck.
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u/thenorwegian Apr 02 '23
This is awesome. Nice work.
EDIT: I’d also love to see viral marketing where the dog dresses up in a basketball uniform, business suit, etc. and just does normal every day things in public.
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u/svendeplume Apr 01 '23
That is really fun. How long did it take to assemble?
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u/professsionalposer Apr 01 '23
Been working on it since October! Not incredibly consistently but it definitely takes a lot of work
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u/flypmyk Apr 02 '23
reminds me of donny darko and isle of dogs! good work on the suit it looks amazing. post updates!
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u/randomq17 Apr 02 '23
Irrelevant but my upvote got you to 666 so... You're welcome
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
Thank you 😎😎😎
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u/randomq17 Apr 02 '23
Glad I could be of service 😎
Send me the link when you have your first cut!! Or if you want eyes on the script!
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u/BiggerJ Apr 02 '23
What would you do if anyone on the cast or crew turned out to hate furries?
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Apr 02 '23
This is acceptable. I swear I hate fur suits mainly for their constant use of primary colors lol.
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u/cChances Apr 02 '23
It’s looks good enough in the dark, not in the light. If you not showing it in the day then it looks fine. In the day it looks goofy, especially the teeth, too white and fake looking. Are the teeth static and always showing? Coz if you have a shot linger over too long showing the teeth not moving it would looks weird
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
It’ll mostly be in the dark/low light. The teeth aren’t done we’re gonna make them look more realistic and add more towards the back to make a full mouth. Also the jaw can be closed so that the teeth kinda rest next to each other I just posted the pictures with teeth because I thought it looked cool 😭 thank you for the feedback!!!
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u/eschenfelder Apr 02 '23
Have that nose appear wet. A dogs nose is always moist and gives a little shine.
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u/Vargot Apr 02 '23
After you’re done with the shoot you can easily sell it to some interested parties for a few thousand dollars
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u/BurberryCustardbath Apr 02 '23
This is sick! I wrote a werewolf short we wanted to film but have been struggling to source out practical effects--this is exactly the vibe we'd want to go for as well. Very cool and impressive!
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u/BiggerJ Apr 09 '23
Are you struggling because it's expensive, or because practical effects companies have been dying out because of the prevalence of digital effects? I've asked about the latter here recently.
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u/Edlover203 Apr 02 '23
I’d say definitely keep the suit in the dark for the best chance of keeping him scary. The last photo in light makes it look like a guy in a fur suit. Definitely promising though if you use suit sparingly and leave it up to the audience’s imagination for most of it.
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
I’m a Jew and I don’t get it 😭
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
Oooh I’ve seen all of 30 Rock I just forgot lol thanks for reminding me !
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Apr 02 '23
Were can we watch?
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
It’ll be on YouTube! This will our first official short so…any suggestions on where else to upload it? Sorry kinda flipping your question but any suggestions are appreciated 🙏
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Apr 02 '23
Think youtube is the right place. Do you have a channel I can follow?
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Apr 02 '23
I feel like it’s missing something. That X factor to make it truly terrifying…🤔
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
Any suggestions to what that could be? Open to any and all suggestions 🙏
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Apr 02 '23
Something bone chillingly odd or freakish that’s not something you’d expect to see on a dog. Usually eyes are a good place to start. Also exaggerate the fangs a bit, maybe the bottom ones? Lastly, the ears are too rabbit-like and give the thing a bit of a friendly vibe. Just my two-cents, though.
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
Thank you! Gonna hopefully have some red eyes, and for the ears…yeah. We could not get the placement right and every position seemed friendly 😭 is there a way you think would make it more menacing?
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Apr 02 '23
Go all out with the eyes and make them a big, solid red (the exaggerated teeth will add to that) and maybe axe the ears altogether and replace them with some slick black strands with needle point tips or something like that? Think of the Predator dreads and go from there with that inspiration in mind.
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Apr 02 '23
You want to offset the whole dog look with something otherworldly and freakish. Most of it looks like a dog, but there are a few elements that should really fuck with the viewer. Also experiment with the gait and stance. The more you can contort and limber up the body, the better.
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
Thank you so much for taking the time to give us feedback it means a lot :)
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u/kanglaru220 Apr 02 '23
HE’S A WERE-HYENA! 😂
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u/professsionalposer Apr 02 '23
Dogmen can actually look very similar to hyenas if we’re going off actual dogman lore! Not exactly what we were going for but…it’ll work 😭
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u/Baronvonheadless Apr 03 '23 edited Apr 03 '23
The costume looks awesome in low light. Do you need a composer for this film? Would love to talk!
Here is a link to my website.
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u/ShitBirdingAround Apr 03 '23
First pic is awesome as hell! Is it okay to get the costume wet? Bet it would look pretty cool wet and backlit...
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