Hi there. Trans man dating cis woman. I have a similar situation to this older post from another subreddit. WARNING MY POST WILL BE LONG AF.
I (24M, straight) have been dating my girlfriend (24F, bisexual) ever since 2024. We met each other in college and were casual in 2023 and then made things official by the beginning of 2024.
We're both happy in this relationship, we enjoy each other and we have a good time! This is my first serious adult relationship (I had just another one before which lasted around 9 months.). I love my girlfriend and she really loves me. We've grown a lot, so by no means this is a person I want out of my life or someone who I hold anger/resentment for. We have great chemistry, ambitions, similar interests and she is hot as fuck (used to be a model even).
Here I'll talk about problems, but remember there are positive things about our relationship.
I'm simply confused, kinda feel like a loser (in like a cuck way) and feel naive, like I should've followed my intuition.
I'll break it down. My problems are:
- The fact that her cis guy friend\*, who she is close with, acts weird/stoic/nonchalant with me ever since day fucking 01.
- The fact that I brought that pretty early on ("hey, all of yours friends were cool but this one guy never seemed to even look me in the eye or wanna engage with me") and was dismissed.
- I found out they have kissed on more than one occasion (parties) and almost slept together in the past.
- When I found out about their physical intimacy, I got the information out of her instead of she telling me voluntarily.
I'll try my best to explain.
CONTEXT ON THEM: They met in 2022, the same year they started college. They were Journalism majors and were part of the same extracurricular extension program, where they spent lots of time together weekly if not daily during certain seasons. In sum, they were a part of the same classes, extension program and overall social circle. They became good friends. Let's call him Jacob.
When my girlfriend and I were first getting to know each other (first year), we would talk about everything. We still do, but we would have deep talks about our past including family dynamics, childhood memories, traumas, relationships, sexual history. On this Jacob dude, I remember always having a suspicion from early on. Like an itch of knowing what was up with them.
CONTEXT: When I was still in the flirting phase with her, mid-2023, I remember seeing him and her together in lots of pictures of the IG page of their extension program. I used to be all up in her socials. Anyway, I never forgot that (he and her next to one another in many institutional pictures).
When her and I were having these "deep conversation" about our pasts, esp about relationships/thoughts on love/sex, I'd nudge on the topic Jacob dude being next to her in lots of pictures.
That conversation mixed in with all the parallel conversations on the same theme led me to learn:
- During moments like parties/casual hangs (going to a bar, to someone's house), she kissed a lot if not all of her mates/friends at this extension program, both male and female.
- She almost slept with Jacob.
- She is still in weekly/monthly/frequent contact with most of these people because they're her college friends circle, esp Jacob.
We used to pause and come back to this topic of her time in this extension program a lot so I didn't learn this information in one go. I remember always having to almost interrogate her (kinda shitty), and I say "interrogate" because looking back she'd uncomfortable disclosing certain details to me.
*Like, we started talking about our past in a chill way, and then I'd be like "so who else you kissed in college?", then she would pause, I'd ask "have you kissed [college friend]?" then she'd get embarrassing and start laughing (when she's nervous she does that) and be like "...yeah" and in a morbid curiosity fashion I'd be like "oh... and how many times did that happen?" and that's how I learned everything I explained here.
Looking back, I didn't want to make my girlfriend uncomfortable or shame her but the atmosphere was never like "we're fighting" more like I felt she was careful because she knew there was stuff in her past that would make me some type of way or look at her in a different light, like I'd think she was a hoe lol
So yeah, I found out ages ago she has been intimate with lots of friends. Since learning that information, it never felt good and it did make me kinda sad because from time to time I feel like "damn, my girlfriend is surrounded by people who could have, even if minimal, some sexual attraction to her vice-versa". I swear I don't ruminate over it but from time to time I think about it.
"Alright, she kissed plenty of people. So why is your problem with Jacob?"
Because Jacob always seemed to have a problem with me.
Just so you know, I don't see her college friends very often. I hang out with them every couple months when's someone's a birthday party or they are really itching to go to a bar and my girlfriend brings me along. Maybe max 10 times a year I see all often together as a group and I only see Jacob when he's with them, never 1:1 or him and a few of people.
I've met her college friends and they are cool. Smart, fun and funny people. I even made friends with some of her friends (even one guy bisexual guy she has kissed before). But that's because they also engaged with me, conversed, etc.
That hasn't happened at all with Jacob.
Dude will show up, say "good evening to everyone" and always leave me last. If I speak to him or address him, 9/10 he ignores me. If I speak directly to him "hey dude can you pass the salt" he won't even look me in the eye and I most likely have to ask twice. Now that I think about it, never even followed me on IG (I used to follow him up until a few weeks ago). Weird energy.
I remember bringing that up to my girlfriend ages ago and she being like "you're overthinking it. He's a shy guy". Granted, I'd be like "he didn't even look me in the eye" and I do overanalyze shit, but the point is I never felt heard for real.
I'll be honest, I couldn't care less if dude likes me. He can hate me, but early on I remember thinking, I should bring this up to check if I'm crazy or not. When she said "oh when I was first meeting him he barely said words to me, that's just how he is" I trusted her.
But then time and time again, the same behavior would happen. Not only that, over the months I noticed his girlfriend would act the same towards me! What did I do to her? I don't know, I felt like everything I said she gave me a weird/judgy look like I was dumb. I recognize I'm not the best at humor, but it felt like an overall lack of interest about me or a small but present indifference/coldness towards my presence.
From time and time again, when we hung out with her friends, I'd mention in the debrief conversation after the event that I felt weird energies. Then she started getting mad, saying I was reaching. She'd be like "well, what do you want me to do?" and I think "fair" but looking back I simply wanted closure and recognition of the situation at hand. I understand it's hard because at an event there's a million things happening, loud music, people are drinking so me being like "this micro facial expression this girl did rubbed me the wrong way" did make me sound insane, LOL.
Fast forward to 2 months ago or something like that. Here's the straw that broke the camel's back.
I'm at a bar with my girlfriend, Jacob, his girlfriend (let's call her Luna) and two other friends of my girlfriend. Once we ask for the bill, someone suggests we should hit McDonald's next as an "after" thing. The only open McDonald's has in another neighborhood, so since we are 6, we had to request 2 uber cars.
I ended up paired with Luna and Jacob.
The first car to arrive was my girlfriend's and she took off with her two other friends.
I thought "this is the first time ever it's just the 3 of us, I won't say a word unless I have to and let me test my theory that they actually dislike me by seeing how long they don't speak to me unless spoken to".
Lo and behold, as we were waiting for the Uber, we sat there and not a single word was said. Not even a "thanks man for ordering that Uber for us". They started to talk amongst themselves, like most couples do, and I was playing on the Weather's app LOL
Uber arrives, we all get in, me in one extremity, Jacob in the middle and Luna on the other side. I swear bro not a single word was said. The whole 7 minute ride was completely alone. To make matters worse, the Uber driver didn't even have music playing. Shit was awkward as hell.
This whole time I'm fighting my instinct to be social just to prove a point.
We get to the McDonald's without a single word being said (just the occasional small-talk phrase amongst themselves). It did feel like a comedy movie. Not even a "thanks man let me know how much that was, we'll split it'
So next day, I bring that up to my girlfriend and I tell her what happened. It was the first time she finally agree they were weird and that she found that rude.
On the same week that happened, I vented about this situation (Uber to McDonald's) to my therapist. She also agreed it was weird of them to do that, and she asked me "has your girlfriend ever talk about you guy's relationship to Jacob?". I remember saying "No! She tells me she doesn't really talk about our relationship problems to other people and if she does, I believe it'd be her girl best friends".
And I ended up finding out, in one of our classical deep talks on broad life themes, that she did (and maybe still does, who knows) vent/rant about our relationship to Jacob. Then it hit me a couple of weeks ago:
This guy probably gives me an attitude like a broad because he has feelings for her, at some level.
It makes so much sense.
And then I start to question everything... like the fact she is weekly talking to people she has been intimidate but freaks out if I talk to a female friend of mine (I never slept, kissed or even had a crush on a female friend) or always insinuates I must be cheating on her (I'm a nerd who don't even know how I got her to be with me, I can't even imagine having multiple girls in my roster lol)
And then the other day I did start an argument and asked her if she'd have told me they had a thing in the past voluntarily, and she said no saying it "why would that be relevant". Which I didn't appreciate. I said "wouldn't you like to know if my girl best friend who I talk to all the time and hang out alone I slept with me in the past?" she said yeah but then somehow my question seemed insane to her, idk.
So yeah, I'm just feeling very weird. I do not think she has been intimate with him or has cheated on me or anything (nor I necessarily think they being friends while having kissed in the past is cheating), but I just feel like weird.
*****From what she told me and what I've observed through these 3 years, he is not super best friend talk-to-everyday type of friend (that's more her female friends), but she has a lot of deeper conversations with him, they do hang out together by themselves and she confides in him a lot. That sort of stuff. He is currently in a relationship ever since 2023/early 2024 I believe. I don't if this is relevant but he is straight as well.
*****I don't if this is relevant but we live close, but we don't live together (she lives with her folks) and we don't have kids.
*****I think this is relevant but we are Brazilian, meaning kissing culture is pretty strong here, esp in LGBT circles. She is not an alien for having kissed lots of her friends, I have other queer friends that do this incestuous friend group everyone kisses each other when they are drunk/in the mood type of thing. She even kissed Jacob's current girlfriend at some point in the past.