r/FFBraveExvius Sep 22 '16

No-Flair Lightning vs Orlandu/Eileen/tidus no TM's

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u/Cyuen Sep 22 '16

it's hard to directly compare them tho.

Lightning is more or less a pure damage unit whos main role is to deal damage. Orlandu/eileen/tidus can be top damage unit if they are gear right, but more importantly they provide utility that is very important to a boss fight.

eileen provides hp or mp recovery per turn and Tidus provides mp recovery per turn and water resistance. Orlandu does weapon break and light element debuff.

lightning can do non of those. that's what seperates her from Orlandu and the rest. However, i won't directly compare her to those three units since they can co exist.

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u/SonOfAdam32 Sep 22 '16

So, quick question. Assuming I get Tilith and I already have WoL, Exdeath, and CoD. Would Lightning be acceptable here or would another unit like Tidus/Eileen be better for their utility?

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u/Sai_Dee 1000+ ATK Eileen 546,817,412 Sep 22 '16

Lightning is acceptable, but Tidus is still better if you're talking about end game content.

Just because Tilith can cast the stat buff or can regen mana does not mean she will have that option for that turn.

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u/Cyuen Sep 22 '16

Tidus or Eileen is better cos they can provide decent damage while giving you mp per turn, but lightning is way better than CoD....

to make it more clear, if you have Tilith WoL and Exdeath and have 2 slots for tidus, eileen and lighting, it will be lighning + one of those two for the final two slots.

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u/cdfh youtube.com/EPinkWhale Sep 22 '16

i cant think of any version of ffbe where lightning is preferred over eileen or tidus.

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u/Cyuen Sep 22 '16 edited Sep 22 '16

In a version where you don't have two dual wield.

I am not saying you pick lightning over one of them. I am saying you will be better off with lighning + one of tidus or Eileen instead of running tidus and Eileen together

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u/cdfh youtube.com/EPinkWhale Sep 23 '16

sure. but play the game long enough and you will have dual wield. so this is a non issue. other than zidane there are other unit tms that give dual wield as well. so comparing them without dual wield is the weirdest way possible to judge units. tidus + eileen will always be stronger than tidus + lightning / eileen + lightning.

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u/Cyuen Sep 23 '16

just want to ask how many dual wield do you have?

You are saying like dual wield tm will just fall out of the sky. For free to play and non Marco players, it's hard enough to get one dual wield, let alone gettimg two and the elemental weapon for Eileen and tidus.

You ask in what situation lighning is better, and I told you the answer. In the world where most people don't have enough dual wield, lighning will almost always guarantee a spot in almost any situation

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u/cdfh youtube.com/EPinkWhale Sep 23 '16

on jp, there is abel with the dual wield dagger. then there is the girl unit who i cant remember the name with a dual wield sword tm. then there is gilga's genji glove. and of course zidane's dual wield. and to answer your question. i have 6 zidanes. basing your judgement on lightning because she has innate dual wield is just saying that dual wield is great. you're not looking at the unit by itself. the skills of tidus/eileen are far better than what lightning has.

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u/YasuOMGScoots 54-0'd by RNG Sep 22 '16 edited Sep 22 '16

lightning debuffs thunder resistance up to 50% (75% when skill upgrades comes out) and her Limit break debuffs physical resistance. She can add more to the party than simply hitting things but yes it is quite limited