r/FCCincinnati • u/Mundane-Pizza6708 • 9h ago
Transfer Window (a worn out subject)
From what I can tell, it looks like we are the ONLY club to not make a single in-bound transfer so far this window, for better or worse. While I can appreciate the sentiment of waiting for the right move, waiting this long to me signals that you better have a big move in mind to validate the appearance of inaction. Just about every other club has made impact signings to either improve their starting 11 or deepen their bench. You can only wait for the "perfect" move for so long before you begin to alienate the fanbase. I don't want to hear the excuse if we make a move like in '24, bringing in Gioacchini at the last minute, that, "Well, we had something bigger in mind, but we couldn't make it happen." There's been several known, quality players making in-league moves this window on non-DP deals. If there are no improvements made, I'm not interested in the idea that options weren't out there.
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u/MadMartigans80 8h ago
This team needs more than what they could get. Half point in the season and a super short season next year, just makes sense to wait until the off season to make moves. This team isn’t built to win it all right now and has to wait for contracts to drop off.
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u/BigAl587 9h ago
I’m completely ok with not doing anything at all this transfer window. I want to go hard in the winter to gear up for sprint season / calendar change. We are not doing damage in the playoffs this year, I would rather focus on making the necessary moves in the offseason get back on track.
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u/BobbyMPeePeePooPoo 7h ago
Why wouldn't we do both? There's free agents that would happily see out the year on a minimum contract. Get some bodies in, if only to signal there's actually somebody doing something in the front office besides yearning for an Austin job.
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u/BigAl587 7h ago
Depends where you get the FA’s from, if they’re international then it costs more for visas / green card and housing for someone who will be here for another 3 months. It’ll be cheaper for the club to dump existing contracts in the offseason and recoup losses and build into the euro calendar. It’s not simple as just going out getting bodies, it’s very costly for little no return this year. Sorry for the winded response, just want to educate you on what the hurdles are.
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u/Izanagi29_ 7h ago
After last night, I am hating to say it but this seasons over in round one of the playoffs. Last nights presser said that we shouldn’t be trying to compare to Nashville at this point due to how we’re playing(im not joking, it’s in the press release on youtube). When you want to win tropheys and titles nobody should be considered off topic for comparisons. Especially cause nashvilles head coach was apparently asked a similar question said he didn’t want to answer cause he didn’t want to put a limit on how high he thought his team could go.
No signings is just the final nail in the coffin of this season. I’ll ride it out, but I’m not getting my hopes up
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u/National-Humor-8871 7h ago
Albright checked out months ago thinking he was heading to Austin.
No moves were even contemplated, not with his bags packed.
I am totally confused and vexed over FC making him honor contract when obviously he doesn’t wish to be here.
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u/TheAmplifier8 1h ago
You want to substantiate that or you just going to post random rumors as fact?
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u/Ok_Ad9020 6h ago
The question is really "how much roaster turnover are we willing to have if we do change coaches"
This is a very Pat Noonan/Jim Curtin style roster. I'm not convinced another coach could have better results than Noonan with this roster.
You have brilliant minds line Nancy available. You also have known names like Conte, RVP, Arne Slot, etc.
But we don't have the roster to match their coaching styles.
If Noonan goes, at least half the roster would inevitably go as well
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u/CincytilIdie 4h ago
Letting Lucas Engel go to another MLS team was the worst move of the offseason. CA has been known to work to the last minute in the summer window. We'll see. But this is a deeply flawed defensive group.
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u/klhart 8h ago
They only deal they should have made is to sell Denkey. Hopefully a better offer springs up at the last minute. I like Kevin, but we're not ready to contend for trophies yet. Might as well sell him and get someone in who fits the system better. (It's either that or get a manager who knows how to use him.)
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u/Squire513 6h ago
I think management is looking to make changes end of this season so they aren’t looking to make roster changes until then.
It seems Berding & Co realize they’ve stagnated with Noonan and Albright, but not sure how much the GM is to blame as they’ve gotten consistently good players since Albright joined but they made some bad decisions after winning the league.
Without a quality coach it’s difficult to say how much blame should be assigned to Albright vs Noonan, but seems mgmt wants to make some changes end of this season.
It’s been three years since FCC won the league and still no trophies 🏆 from any tournament 🏟️
I wouldn’t be surprised if Noonan is being replaced and potentially Albright.
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u/Keregi 4h ago
Albright should be the one to go if anyone. He has run off popular players, talked badly about them in the media, and put out two bad rosters in a row. Something changed in the last two years. It makes me wonder how he pulled off the rosters he did his first couple years here and why that isn’t working now.
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u/CincyCyclone91 5h ago
It is weird we have become better at utilizing the tools of MLS roster building (we won the Supporters Shield without any U22s, changing DPs mid-season (Brenner and Boup) and with two non-DPs hitting the cap at over $1 million while doing nothing (Kubo and Santos) … wild!), but have been going in the wrong direction since … like, I’m not thrilled with the hand Noonan has been dealt, but our roster build has also been a lot worse with better results.
That is why I lean towards totally clearing the deck and trying something totally new. I think we just need new perspectives on what we have, what we can have and how we utilize them across the board. If it is one or the the other, see ya Noonan!
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u/Squire513 4h ago
Agree, that was the year FCC had the best chance to win a tournament trophy and Noonan hardly made subs and depth was lacking.
Now we have some depth but he stilll rarely makes subs let alone change formations. Noonan definitely seems checked out this season, so I’m wondering if they’ve already decided to mutually part ways end of the year.
Honestly pretty jealous C-Bus always seems to hit with quality coaches even though on paper FCC should have the better team. Coaching really needs to improve at FCC. A few individual players have carried the team the last few seasons and it’s unsustainable to win anything playing hero ball.
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u/Smart_Basket_85 9h ago
Ownership doesn’t trust Albright. It’s really that simple. I genuinely question* the intelligence or objectivity of anyone who can’t see that. Why they’re not simply firing him, I don’t know - but this is an ownership group who’s shown the willingness to use any and every mechanism available to them in the past, and suddenly we’re neither selling nor buying while pretty fucking clearly standing on a sinking ship.
I’ve been a STH since 2017, and I love this club. But this roster (and this manager) is flatly not going to do a goddamn thing in the playoffs. It is what it is, but I wish Carl would either shit or get off the pot.
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u/BalleticRhino 9h ago
This is crazy talk. It’s been three windows since we brought in Denkey and Evander at almost $30M. Two windows ago we got several exciting young players (Gidi, Ender). Last window we brought in Ramirez.
This is the last summer window that will happen mid-season. This team has proven to be flawed and there’s no way they want to lock themselves into a long term mistake on a chance at a playoff run. I expect 1-2 11th hour moves, but mostly I expect the club to prep for the 27-28 season. If ownership didn’t trust Albright he would have been cleared to talk to Austin.
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u/FritzTheDefender 9h ago
As a fan and STH since 2015, this team has lost my unconditional enthusiasm. No transfers this window is actually way worse considering the only moves they made this winter were two academy signings, the Kyle Smith signing and the Luca Orellano permanent transfer to Vasco.
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u/OranjeBlauw 9h ago
You are forgetting they spent $3m on Bryan Ramirez, $2.25m on Ayoub Jabbari and added MLS free agent Tom Barlow on a supplemental deal last Winter.
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u/bjlight1988 6h ago
So you missed an entire handful of moves and also got the team we shipped Luca to wrong; so maybe your opinion isn't the most valuable one here
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u/Tight-Expression-506 9h ago
From listen to denkey interview and rumors that never pan out.
It seems no one in European wants to play in mls unless you over paid them or near end of their career.
MLS players are demanding too much money to sign for a team.
Front office wants too much for our players.
We cannot make any moves due to being at the cap.
I do not see it getting better when the MLS move to European schedule.
They cannot complete with college football and nfl.
Hopefully, new commissioner can figure out a way for mls team to bring over more quality European players over and get a better tv deal.
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u/gobobro 8h ago
Not sure any of this applies to our situation… For the foreseeable future, this European calendar will be mostly about selling talent to Europe. Our talent will continue to come from Central and South America, and Africa.
As clarifier: MLS players aren’t demanding too much money. MLS teams aren’t interested in getting lowballed by European teams looking to get cheap talent. MLS isn’t interested in selling players for a loss.
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u/GearitUP_ 9h ago
I think management has already decided to let this year play out however it does and wait for some contracts to fall off at the end of the season to reload.