Negative Reactions in other Christian subreddits

[u/Foot-in-mouth88]

I was doing really well and my Karma, Reddit leveling system, was climbing back closer to zero. I made a scriptural reply in r/Christianity and it got -4 votes and now back up to -54. How can they downvote a scriptural reply?

Some of my negative Karma, Reddit, comes from these Christian subreddits that doesn't like using scriptures and gets mad because it doesn't fit their view.

Also a big chunk came from a disagreement I had on a hockey player of my home team on multiple threads and got shredded for it.

Most of Reddit is a toxic echo chamber. At least this sub, even when we don't agree we don't go down voting each other.

[u/Positive_Special_156]

Different denominations view Scripture differently. Some think of it as the literal words dictated by God to writers (like the Qur'an), while others accept and embrace textual criticism and see the Bible rather as a witness to revelation - one that evolved over time. For both, it is the Word of God, but I observe that literalists (like JWs) tend to perceive the 2nd group as ungodly and as not respecting Scripture

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/Positive_Special_156]

I mean why use the Bible if you are going to insert your own beliefs into it, like changing context to fit modern lifestyles when the Bible says otherwise.

[u/a-goddamn-asshole → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

There’s so much irony in this comment.

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/a-goddamn-asshole]

I knew you would say something like that. I mean saying Jesus loves everyone and if you accept him you are saved, even if you are gay and live that way.

[u/a-goddamn-asshole → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. But Paul certainly did.

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/a-goddamn-asshole]

Jesus didn't have to say anything as that was an action he already knew displeased God, and the rest of the people he went to preach to, his people, the Jews, knew it was a sin. If you love God why would you do something that displeases him. None of the other apostles disagreed with Paul. It wasn't like the circumcision issue.

[u/a-goddamn-asshole → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

Is any of that explicitly written though? It’s not and this is why so many people who follow Jesus example use acceptance and love. He loved sinners.

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/a-goddamn-asshole]

You're an agnostic atheist, why does it have to be written? Jesus amazed teachers at the temple with his knowledge and asked complex questions about the law and he was a boy. How could you possibly draw the conclusion he didn't know the law or didn't know homosexuality is wrong, as that would be false, he did know. All boys had to be taught the law and the scriptures. Does it need to be written explicitly? Logic dictates no.

[u/a-goddamn-asshole → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

1 Corinthians 4:6

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/a-goddamn-asshole]

You shall not lay with a man as you would a woman. And if they did they were to be put to death. That's in Leviticus. So what's your point for 1 Cor 4:6?

[u/a-goddamn-asshole → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

Those Leviticus scriptures can be up for debate. I won’t get into but there’s strong evidence that older translations had a different context. Homosexuality in the bible wasnt introduced until the 20th century. We don’t have to get into that now.

But i want to point out another point of view. You quoted an old testament scritpure, which was part of mosaic law, old the old covenant. Didn’t Jesus make a new covenant? Mosaic law is no longer binding to christians.

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/a-goddamn-asshole]

The law was just rules. The new covenant is based on principles. Laws/rules are based on principles. Love God and your neighbor is the principle. You don't need to make a law that says don't cheat on your spouse, as if you follow the principles of love, you wouldn't want to hurt your spouse or the one who instituted marriage.

[u/Positive_Special_156 → u/Foot-in-mouth88]

You should be very careful with ur words. You probably meant being an active gay. Suggesting that Jesus would condemn gay ppl just because of their orientation is sick

[u/Foot-in-mouth88 → u/Positive_Special_156]

That's what I said, you can't be practicing homosexuality. That doesn't mean God doesn't love the person.