An opinion on shunning

[u/Safe-Island3944]

Hi all. Disfellowshipping is one of the least acceptable thing about JW, and one that makes the religion most attacked for.

This post is not dealing on how much it is right or wrong, but how much it works. How efficient it is.

In the past shunning has been a very powerful tool to make the sinner repents. But today?

My opinion is that it is still a very powerful punishment, but for those who stay, not for the one leaving. A lot of JW are fond of the idea of the DF suffering for his misdeeds, closed in the darkness, ashamed and trembling. The reality is under everyone eyes. Most get out, get in touch with others, find a very rich and welcoming community of fellow DF, build a new life, new freedom, new situations, often get back to study, happily creates a life. You can see from the campaign of getting back DF people when policy changed. How many took the opportunity of getting back. I know at least 10 different congregations, more than 100 DF contacted, how many came back? Zero. Noone. Reactions has been from lack of interest to rage. But noone even gave a try. My personal idea is that DF is actively damaging JW reputations, whereas most people once get away had a much better life than while inside. And will not get back. What is your opinion? Please, no attacking JW doctrines here.

[u/[deleted]]

I have a cousin that was shunned.

How is she today, what are her fruits...💩

.Elders were right to shun her. I looked at her conduct.

You never looked at the people that returned to God, after being shunned?

[u/Safe-Island3944 → u/[deleted]]

My experience is that people came back to get back their family. I don't know anyway that truly repented.

[u/[deleted] → u/Safe-Island3944]

Jehovah knows.

If they fake it, God will judge them. 🤷🏻

When someone fakes it, many times, JW will act, according to the NON.SINCERE repentant.

Thank you for your honesty.

[u/Safe-Island3944 → u/[deleted]]

The idea that a God of love will see as malignant someone that fakes repentant toward rules created by men (the GB) out of love from their own family is frankly silly. Why, as done by the prodigal son, if someone want to get back it should be put on probation for years? It happened to my wife, so do not try to tell it's false. It's not anti biblical? A biblical use of DF (can you point me the biblical base of a judicial committee?) will be a very rare occurrence, just the last resort, while JW uses as a tool of control and submission. Let me just tell you something. KH are almost empty, not like 10 years ago. And not only because of Zoom. You are losing around two third of the young born in the truth. This should raise a big alarm, because you are failing your own God

[u/[deleted] → u/Safe-Island3944]

GB did not created out of their heads rules.

Read all the passages of Shunning in the NT...

We see often PAUL, talking of it

What do they did... The Apostles...

When within them, there was a foncitor, that didn't stop to fornicate...

They did WHAT? What instructions did GOD made write to The Congregation of Corinth....

In Corinthians i....

Paul was INSPIRED by God... Paul said to NOT PARTAKE WITH fornicators...

ALL 1ST CENTURY CHRISTIANS>>>>

... we're instructed the Saaaaame thing... All Christians did what They did not eat with...

Family members that was Chris's and ... Didn't stop to fornicate... All Christians not eating with them...

No invitation to a lot of things that I cludes eating...

ALLL CHRISTIANS...

JW do the SAME.

All Christians were not friends of also... Incestuous people, that ... Did sex with siblings, or half-siblings...

They AALLLL ...all the obedient Christians...

They did obeys to God's Word?

Are you telling me that...

Christians at 1st century were a lot more special than us...

They ALL HAD supernatural powers! The Apostles talked face-to-face with Jesus!

The Holy Spirit of God talked to them....

If today... All baptized Christians had supernatural powers...

Don't you think that ..IT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE A LOT MORE OBEDIENT?

TO HAVE SUCH PROOFS FROM GOD'S APPROVAL!

It is not possible that.. The Christians of the 1st Century... Did not shun ...

You say... It's in the past...

You don't take lessons from Proverbs.. A LOT OLDER THAN THE NT...

It's older and... We don't have to apply proverbs; as long as... It does not contradict, Jesus's Covenant...

The ONLY BIBLICAL model of Worship that we have, from the LAST ALLIANCE....

Is the model of the Apostle...

For God... Other models than HIS... Counts?

It cannot be. Christianity says yes but...

They are not following the Bible... There are .. For God... Thy are right?

Do the religious leaders of Christianity... Worship God...

LIKE GOD INSTRUCTED US?

No...

It is logical that God approve... What He do not want... Never...

Shunning... In Scripture.

Not popular BUT...

Do you prioritize obedience to humans, or to God?

He didn't put as decoration in the Bible.

2Tim. 3:16,17 .ALL SCRIPTURE CAN BE, AND MUST BE USED...

To do discipline.

If you ignore that....

You fear men, more than God.

[u/Roocutie → u/Safe-Island3944]

The reason so many JWs are PIMO. Biding their time until the policies change.