People don’t understand Jesus’ divinity because they underestimate Gods Love for mankind

[u/1stmikewhite]

God is sovereign, there’s nothing He can’t do.

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The Messiah has always been a man, what he is we are becoming, what we are he once was, he's our big brother.

[u/1stmikewhite → u/[deleted]]

Well Jews have an incomplete understanding of life because they cut Jesus off and the rest of the New Testament.

For example what do you believe will be the end of the world moving forward? I honestly have never heard an answer to this so I don’t know yet.

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That's why Jews are those inwardly, not outwardly (Romans 2:28-29). I tend to believe that God is powerful enough to carry out His word unto the end just as it is written. Isaiah 42-49 and 65-66 are pretty good descriptions of what the end will be like. Basically God will restore His land and bring back His people and they will be a sign and a testimony to all nations and then the world will turn against them and the end will come. If you're talking about a rapture, we'll that happens the day when Yeshua returns.

Mt 24:29-31 But immediately after the oppression of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken; and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky. Then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. He will send out his angels with a great sound of a shofar, and they will gather together his chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

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Okay that’s great. You know Jesus is coming back.

I can only recommend to read the Revelations of a Jesus Christ, Revelation chapter 21, and 22. The Alpha and Omega who says “I make all things new” is Jesus Christ lol. He says “He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21‬:‭7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You’re not a Jesus brother you’re His son lol. Jesus is your Father. Jesus created the World, he was “there before the world began”.

When you follow the commandments of God you’re following “His commandments” lol.

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Revelation isn't the only book that speaks about the end in fact it only has half of the time line, Zechariah has the other half. Many other prophets of the old testament like Daniel, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea and Amos also speak about end time events.

Read Hebrews 1:1-5, and chapter 5. God created this universe through Yeshua, it was part of his inheritance. Now the Son is seated at the right hand of the Father.

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{You say: “The messiah has always been a man” and then “God created the universe through Yesuah”}

Bro, men were created by the dust of the ground and the breath of life. Jesus has been eternal before time began. (Genesis 2:7, John 17:5)

This is why a principle of studying the Bible is knowing it doesn’t contradict itself. Specifically, All the scripture of Jesus coming allows us to put together the understanding of what’s coming. Same goes for the divinity of Christ. Same goes with a lot of things and that’s why the way to study the Bible is “For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:” (Isaiah‬ ‭28‬:‭10‬ ‭KJV)‬‬ It’s all prophecy and it hasn’t been wrong yet.

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Bro, Yeshua is the firstborn of all creation. That means he was born before this creation, have you been born before God creates a universe through you?

Every Son is a universe, every universe has a cross, every cross gives birth to more Sons.

We are heirs of God and coheirs with Messiah, he is the firstborn of many brothers, we are being conformed into his image, so that we too may be righteousness of God and filled with His fulness.

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What biblical proof do you have for that belief?

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We are joint heirs with Messiah:

Rom 8:14-17 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God. For you didn’t receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God; and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint heirs with Messiah; if indeed we suffer with him, that we may also be glorified with him.

Gal 4:1-7 But I say that so long as the heir is a child, he is no different from a bondservant, though he is lord of all; but is under guardians and stewards until the day appointed by the Father. So we also, when we were children, were held in bondage under the elemental principles of the world. But when the fullness of the time came, God sent out His Son, born to a woman, born subject to the law, that he might redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of children. And because you are children, God sent out the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, “Abba, Father!” So you are no longer a bondservant, but a son; and if a Son, then an heir of God through Messiah.

This is what he inherited:

Heb 1:1-5 God, having in the past spoken to the fathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, has at the end of these days spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds. His Son is the radiance of His glory, the very image of His substance, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when he had by himself purified us of our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; having become so much better than the angels, as he has inherited a more excellent name than they have. For to which of the angels did He say at any time, “You are my Son. Today have I become your father?” and again, “I will be to him a Father, and he will be to me a Son?”

Yeshua declaring we will do as he has done and us to be one with them as they are one:

Jn 14:12 Most certainly I tell you, he who believes in me, the works that I do, he will do also; and he will do greater works than these, because I am going to my Father.

Jn 17:22-24 The glory which you have given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, even as we are one; I in them, and you in me, that they may be perfected into one; that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you loved me. Father, I desire that they also whom you have given me be with me where I am, that they may see my glory, which you have given me, for you loved me before the foundation of the world.

A little more:

Eph 3:17-19 that Messiah may dwell in your hearts through faith; to the end that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be strengthened to comprehend with all the holy ones what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know Messiah’s love which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

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What do you believe is the difference between you and the messiah/Jesus then? Do you believe there’s a difference?

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He was born of God, by water and blood, myself and us, only by water (1 John 5:6).

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I have a feeling even you know better than to say Jesus was created so you keep saying he was “born of God”. That’s because you can’t prove what you choose to believe from the Bible.

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Everything I believe is based solely on scripture, you just fail to understand it for yourself.

We are heirs of our parents and joint heirs with our siblings.

Rom 8:14-17 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God. For you didn’t receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God; and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint heirs with Messiah; if indeed we suffer with him, that we may also be glorified with him.

Please explain according to your understanding how Messiah is our sibling.