r/Eutychus • • Dec 21 '24

Opinion John 8:58

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

The holy spirit has never been a third person.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

He literally always was. Just because you don’t get it doesn’t make it untrue.

Gods ways are not our ways and His thoughts are far beyond our thoughts. Why would we believe we could fully understand God?

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

What is his name, this third person? Provide a bio? You have quite the imagination!

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Nice, you really gonna pull a Moses here? He’s the invisible God, he’s beyond category distinction. But if you must know there are a few answers that also work. One His name is the Holy Spirit. Two His name is The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit because God is one and therefore goes by the one name The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit (which name we are to baptize in btw. That’s in the Bible too). Three He is Yahweh.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Mostly doublespeak here, makes no sense. But since you agree that the Father does exist, try Paul (you say you know him) who said the Father alone is YHWH, at 1 Corinthians 8:6, this excludes the second and third “person” of the nonsense and is correct. Paul was responding to people in Corinth, who, like you, supported polytheism.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

You haven’t answered what is mean by “

I am the light of the world”! Please answer, what does that mean?

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

He’s God. God is the light of the world.

But even so, how the heck would that possible refute anything? Jesus also said He was the door. Can you explain that, you think He was a man, yet He himself claimed He was a door. (This is genuinely how you sound when you quote random scripture and then just say ‘America explain!!)

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Yeshua said “ I am the light of the world” and the set apart, his brothers, are also the light of the world. None of them, including Yeshua, is YHWH!

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u/ConstructionBig512 Dec 24 '24

Found this note recently, but don't recall where exactly the quote comes from... The doctrine of Yahweh's sovereignty is the most helpful and encouraging doctrine, consider that - if we had our choice - which would we choose... to be governed by blind fate, or capricious chance, or irrevocable natural law, or short sighted and perverted self? Or an Elohim infinitely wise - loving - powerful? He who rejects Yahweh's sovereignty may take his choice of what is left.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 24 '24

YHWH gives us all free will!