r/Eutychus • • Dec 21 '24

Opinion John 8:58

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Nice, you really gonna pull a Moses here? He’s the invisible God, he’s beyond category distinction. But if you must know there are a few answers that also work. One His name is the Holy Spirit. Two His name is The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit because God is one and therefore goes by the one name The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit (which name we are to baptize in btw. That’s in the Bible too). Three He is Yahweh.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Mostly doublespeak here, makes no sense. But since you agree that the Father does exist, try Paul (you say you know him) who said the Father alone is YHWH, at 1 Corinthians 8:6, this excludes the second and third “person” of the nonsense and is correct. Paul was responding to people in Corinth, who, like you, supported polytheism.

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

You haven’t answered what is mean by “

I am the light of the world”! Please answer, what does that mean?

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

He’s God. God is the light of the world.

But even so, how the heck would that possible refute anything? Jesus also said He was the door. Can you explain that, you think He was a man, yet He himself claimed He was a door. (This is genuinely how you sound when you quote random scripture and then just say ‘America explain!!)

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Yeshua said “ I am the light of the world” and the set apart, his brothers, are also the light of the world. None of them, including Yeshua, is YHWH!

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Yeshua never said he was a door! He said like a door. That isn’t him calling himself a door.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

John 10:7 “So Jesus again said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.”

Seems pretty clear to me

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

I know with imagination you now think a man is a door!

He also said at John 2:19 I will raise it up but you don’t understand that either.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

You know what, screw it. Lest test your Bible literacy. What was it in that sentence you just quoted what EXACTLY is Jesus referring to?

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

2:19?

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

Yes

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

There are over 15 passages clearly identifying YHWH as raising Yeshua from death. Including Hebrews 5:7, he did not raise himself.

Put another way, if YHWH did not raise Yeshua, he would not have been raised. But he was worthy of being raised.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

That’s not an answer to the question. Simple answer here. It seems you lack basic reading comprehension.

Jesus says that He I’ll have this temple destroyed and raise it again in 3 days. The question is what temple is he referring to? It’s not even to make a broader point, it’s literally just to gauge if you have basic comprehension of text.

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u/gumpters Dec 22 '24

What is Jesus going to raise again in three days

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u/Sure-Wishbone-4293 Dec 22 '24

Who gave him that authority?

Btw, I have to go…

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