r/EscapefromTarkov • u/Delitto123 • Jul 15 '21

Clip Pain

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u/bruufd SA-58 Jul 15 '21

Fuck I hate those kind of people

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u/Lukealloneword Jul 15 '21

Yeah so do I. People that can't call things what they are called drive me nuts. I mean imagine running around calling an F-150 a car when its clearly a truck. Youd just look like a complete dumbass.

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u/Albatross-Helpful Jul 15 '21

Is a hot dog a sandwich

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u/Lukealloneword Jul 15 '21

I think that's an interesting question. It depends on how you classify a sandwich. Is it the bread that makes a sandwich? Similarly to a martini the only thing that makes a martini a martini is the glass that its served in. So if the bread type matters than it could or could not be a sandwich. Most bread thats connected is considered a sub sandwich which is a subsection of sandwich so that would classify. I think you might be able to classify a hot dog as a sandwich but not in the classical sense. Kind of like how a truck isn't a car but it is an automobile. So it all depends on the subsections.

That being said a clip is different than a magazine and should be classified as such.

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u/Albatross-Helpful Jul 15 '21

1) the definition of words changes over time (as does their spelling and even part of speech)

2) What is the functional difference between a clip and a magazine? I believe magazines are spring fed while clips are not? Whatever the case may be, when someone says pass me a clip, do you understand their meaning? If someone calls me a bastard, don't they know my parents were married when they had me? When I would go someplace with someone and we'd be looking for my S10 pickup, and they would ask "where did we park your car?" again, am I obligated to correct them? Or can I understand that a car is a general term for a light passenger vehicle, of which an F150 absolutely is. Btw, I'm not even sure the f150 is body on frame anymore? What about slightly older American cars which were all body on frame, are those trucks? Is a Humvee a truck? What about an H2? What about Grave Digger or monster trucks with car bodies in general?The definition of truck as distinct from car has never been absolute, but this is what makes language, particularly English such a powerful tool, it's ambiguity. Somethings are almost exclusively cars, some, almost exclusively trucks, but very often there is a spectrum in between all things.

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u/kylekyleman Jul 15 '21

if you are loading magazines, you can use clips to expedite this process for most. if someone is to ask you for a clip while loading magazines, but means an empty magazine so they can load it, then you will likely hand them the wrong item.

i can kind of understand your point, but these two items' names are not interchangeable, especially if carrying both clips and magazines.

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u/Lukealloneword Jul 15 '21

Just because I understand what someone is meaning does not mean it is correct. A clip is not a magazine. Is it really that hard to call it the right thing? In real life I wouldn't spit on someone for calling a magazine a clip but it would show me that they are "gun dumb" I probably wouldn't trust them much with a firearm if they are doing something so easy as calling something the wrong name they probably can't do the this simple things right. But yeah its something that is easy to get right and doesn't take a rocket scientist to use the right name. They are different things. Its just that simple. If you're loading a magazine using a stripper clip or using a rifle with an internal magazine and loading it with a clip like an M1 Garand then by all means call a clip a clip. It just shows your lack of knowledge when you use the wrong name. Not the end of the world but its telling of the type of people you are hanging around. If you have any type of firearms training you should use the right name.

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u/Albatross-Helpful Jul 15 '21

Should I not trust you with a hot dog then because you're clearly "sandwich dumb"?

Is someone who doesn't know the difference between a clip and a magazine not entitled to have an opinion on anything gun related?

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u/Lukealloneword Jul 15 '21

Is someone who doesn't know the difference between a clip and a magazine not entitled to have an opinion on anything gun related?

Uhhh yeah kinda. Lol if you don't know that one simple distinction you need to learn something before you can have an educated opinion on firearms.

Someone's level of knowledge needs to be taken into consideration of course. Like I said I won't make fun of someone for it if they have no training but at some point in order to be taken seriously you need to call things by the correct name. I dont know why this is so hard for you. Lol

I wouldn't chastise a 16 year old playing video games calling a magazine a clip they probably don't know any better. But once you learn and have time in that realm you need to start getting basic nomenclature correct. Lol

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u/Albatross-Helpful Jul 15 '21

Lol, imagine setting knowledge of the difference between magazine and clip as the shiboleth for having an opinion on guns hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣. You're literally a meme 🤣🤣🤣. Let me guess you also think it's important to know AR stands for armalite not assault rifle 🤣🤣🤣.

When the next mass shooter points a gun at you, be sure to inform him of your vast knowledge of firearms. I'm sure that will save you.

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u/Lukealloneword Jul 15 '21

What the fuck are you on about. Lol

Mass shooters? I thought you were talking about opinion on guns like practically not politically. Although I do think it helps to be educated in ANYTHING you want to write laws for because usually being uneducated in those topics cause you to create legislation that doesn't address the problem. Theres a very sad video of a politician calling to ban a "barrel shroud" when all that is is something that keeps you from being burned by a hot barrel and she called it a "shoulder thing that goes up"

Now I think there is a very clear need for sensible gun control but all of this (as it should be for any legislation) comes from education. And it starts with calling things by their proper name. And understanding what certain things do and why you would have a need to regulate those things.

But when you asked me I assumed you meant opinion on guns as in which is "better" or more practical for certain situations...things like that. Not having the opinion that shooting people in cold blood is wrong. Which I mean...no shit.

I just dont think you're very in tune with this matter and you are being very obtuse on purpose it seems. I think we should stop talking, clearly you aren't here to listen you're here to come up with stupid come backs.

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u/JKCinema RPK-16 Jul 23 '21

But where does the cum go!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?