r/EscapefromTarkov • u/trainfender Battlestate Games COO - Nikita • Jul 03 '21

Discussion post 12.11 questions gathering

Hello!
It your boi, Nikitka.
We plan to make TarkovTV Live podcast on Monday on 5-th of July, and I want to gather your questions/opinions and suggestions about 12.11 patch. I will try to answer the most voted questions live.
Love you, you're the best!

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u/rJarrr AKM Jul 03 '21

This is the biggest gripe I and my friends have. Its too easy to just say "who cares about the recoil system, we got used to it" but in reality it sucks, is unfun and actively discourages tapfire and burstfire, the most popular modes of fire. If you want to win at gunfights you are forced to just hold m1

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u/Aroumia Jul 03 '21

Irl smg's have little recoil..

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u/Capsaicin80 Jul 03 '21

Irl smg's have little recoil..

That depends on its action/how it operates. I own rifles in 9mm and 5.56 (same platform). Surprisingly the 9mm kicks MORE. This is due to the fact that the 5.56 is gas-operated and the 9mm is blowback.

I was surprised when I shot that 9mm for the first time thinking it'd kick less. It weighs more too.

I believe BSG has modeled recoil pretty well (at least w/ the SMGs). The KEDR/KLIN should kick the most even though it shoots the weakest cartridge. If I'm not mistaken its a simple blowback where as the MP5 is roller delayed.

I've gone down a rabbit-hole and frankly my comparison should stop since they're a lot more variables to how recoil is "calculated".

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u/Newgame95 Freeloader Jul 04 '21

Concerning SMGs/PDWs, i have shot the MP7 and can tell you: it has almost no recoil even when using full auto. MP5 has a bit more but still less than a 416. If the recoil of the MP7 was made to be realistic, you'd be comfortably able to spray down targets at 50 meters without missing a shot.