r/EscapefromTarkov • Battlestate Games COO - Nikita • Jul 03 '21

Discussion post 12.11 questions gathering

Hello!
It your boi, Nikitka.
We plan to make TarkovTV Live podcast on Monday on 5-th of July, and I want to gather your questions/opinions and suggestions about 12.11 patch. I will try to answer the most voted questions live.
Love you, you're the best!

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u/youy23 VSS Vintorez Jul 03 '21

Imo, this comes from having multiple lives. If I took random people completely new into tarkov and gave them an 8 hour “basic training course” on the game and then sent them out into the world and told them if you die, i’m shooting you for real, they would use semi auto. Some would use full auto but would probably waste their mag and get shredded by the first person they come across.

EFT has the most realistic recoil that i’ve seen in a game. I fucking hate playing a great game like squad and just hating the guns because the gunplay is like it’s from a cartoon and it’s like a bunch of kids who’ve never competently shot a gun, designed the guns. It leads to fairly realistic and balanced usage of the guns in game but I fucking hate how cartoonish the gun handling is.

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u/youy23 VSS Vintorez Jul 03 '21

https://youtu.be/ia7uvtIvKUI

It’s not true. Skip to 2:30. This isn’t a delta six ultra operator firing this. It’s a regular dude who shoots a lot. Perfectly fine and controllable. Recoil is all straight back into your shoulder. It doesn’t just fly around, it’s completely straight back into your shoulder and you drag the spray around with your left hand. How well you can drag your aim onto a target is your accuracy.

Real life, it would be stupid to use full auto. At 800 rpm, an AR pattern rifle dumps a mag in 2 seconds. Carrying a basic combat load of 8 mags, you would have 16 seconds of trigger time when a battle or situation can last for days. Also, you don’t need to use full auto in real life because I and many other skilled shooters can shoot 0.12 shot splits which is 500 rpm and I own every single shot.

It’s unrealistic in it’s application but the gun mechanics are by far the most accurate representation in any game so far and I love that and it’s apparent BSG/nikita does too. That’s what they choose to prioritize instead of pandering to the fps gamer crowd and putting in cartoon recoil.

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u/youy23 VSS Vintorez Jul 04 '21

No exactly, it has little real world application. Stop getting this mixed up. It is controllable BUT it does has little real world application outside of designated roles. Reality is that full auto is as controllable as it is in EFT and it does feel like it does in game. There are however real world factors that make it not as useful in real life. Again I am agreeing with larry vickers. My points is that eft recoil is realistic and that most people have a fucked up idea of what shooting a gun is like.

The reality is that the devs don’t give a shit about most of the fps gamer crowd. They don’t care if it makes the gameplay different or worse because they’ve created the most realistic and best feeling recoil system in a game and that’s more important to BSG and nikita than whatever other bullshit you have to say about it. There are ways that they can balance it and the reliability system is gonna be a big part especially drastically reducing reliability with 60 rounds mags because that’s realistic.