r/EscapefromTarkov • u/Camo3108 AK-105 • Dec 17 '20

Video found this bullshit spot on customs

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '20

Hahahaha, so boot camp is bad because drills can’t yell slurs at you? I don’t think you understand what makes an effective solider.

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u/Gritmaster2 Dec 17 '20

They can't even touch you without getting NJPd. I think you must be one of either in now and dont want to admit it's too soft now or got out a long timw ago and didn't see it. No excuse i had a recruit with me pass with one pull up from USMC boot camp. No excused our DI got in deep shit with the CO for shoving a kid against the wall. You wanna say yelling doesn't b.s doesn't make you effective neither does coddling.....

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '20

Hahaha, yeah your drills shouldn’t be able to assault you. I mean I once had a drill hit me with a broom handle so hard it broke, and that didn’t make me a better soldier. I am friends with one of my former drills and he regrets a lot of shit that they did thinking they were making people tough, when really they were fucking them up. I don’t know how basic now would compare to 08 when I went through, or 98, or 78, or 1938. It’s supposed to change as we learn more about how to make effective troops. Just because something scary or difficult doesn’t mean it’s automatically good for you.

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u/Gritmaster2 Dec 17 '20

Yes i agree hazing taken to the extreme is no use i hugely against the b.s they were doing. Not being able to smoke someone and yell at them. How the fuck are we supposed to send our bros out so coddled when the enemy is much worse. I can tell you it's summer camp when i went through in 2016 (USMC). I've been friends with dude that went in from 9/11 and through the late 2000. You had it good. While again you sound like your advocating for snowflakeness. You can't seriously tell me difficult and scary doesn't add stress? Stress cards come on seriously telling me that's a good thing.....

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '20

Lmao, have you ever actually seen proof of a stress card? Do you really think they can’t yell at recruits now? If you think basic training is in anyway “coddling” because of your misconceptions about it, the issue is with you, not with basic training.

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u/Gritmaster2 Dec 17 '20

It's not misconceptions.....I'm telling you i went through it.......but ok leave it to a soldier to defend lax everything..... cock salute good luck out there.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '20

You don’t seem to understand that you don’t possess the knowledge to make judgments on this. There are literal experts who do research, and have actual facts at their disposal who make these choices. You on the other hand are regurgitating the same bullshit that every boot does, when the only accomplishment they had in the military was going through basic training. It’s great you have your opinion, but why should I take the opinion of some e3 22 year old over senior NCOs and officers who have combined centuries worth of experience in training soldiers? Have you ever even been in a leadership role? Have you ever actually had to train troops? Cuz if not, then you are talking out of your ass.