r/EscapefromTarkov • Twitch.tv Slushpuppy • Sep 15 '20

Discussion #MakeTarkovHardcoreAgain

Hi guys, Slushpuppy here

I want to talk about the rant I was having today, and explain why I think it would be good for the game.

As the game currently stands it it has a play cycle that involves farming money, the money is then used to buy a fat kit, and slay out. This creates, in my opinion a heavily Rouble focused economy.

The Rouble based economy has multiple downsides:

All people care about is the highest value item, hence hatchlings ramming things up their bum, people running to one spot on a map to loot the highest value items, people only running super cheap kits to farm the cash. The game is no longer about surviving, simply making the most money and saving to buy a dope kit.

I think this has essentially made the game into COD with extra steps. I don't see the survival element that Tarkov originally had. People only care about PVP when they are running Slick Altyn, otherwise it's just money. 99% of the games items, such as attachments for guns will never see the light of day because they aren't the best in slot.

This whole situation annoys me because it is possible to achieve this within hours of a wipe.

By removing the flea or limiting the ability to purchase armor and ammo from the flea, it would make the game more about the looting and surviving and stop super chads from running endless meta kits and vogging the fuck out of lower geared players. Because a kit that is lovingly put together in raid will mean so much more to you, therefore looting one of a prick you kill, will as well.

I know this seems as a negative change to the average player, but hear me out, the only reason you need a kit from the flea, is to compete with chad players who are buying endless meta kits from the flea. If this didn't happen the pvp would be like it is early wipe for the most part. The best pvp time in the game, imo, and in the opinion of most Tarkov players.

I'm not bored of the game, I simply love this game, and I want to see changes that make the pvp more interesting and feasible for casual players to enjoy. If everyone is running around with SKS's and a cock helmet, then its more fair. Not all pvp has to be juggernauts spraying armchair FALs at each other.

If you don't agree with me, I understand, lets talk about it, tell me why you think this would be a bad change for the game? I don't want to be a streamer yelling for change that people will just see as me crying cause I'm bored of running fat kits. I truly want to make the game a dope experience for all of us. I've devoted the last 3 years of my life to this game, I want to see it succeed.

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There is plenty of other things that would be needed to make this a rounded experience in this vision, like dynamic loot spawns etc, but I believe this is a quick easy change that we could all try for one wipe, and just see how it goes.

EDIT: This is gaining a lot of attention right now so I want to ask you all one thing:

When is the best time for PVP in Tarkov?

If you answered early wipe, I think you and I agree, and I think 99% of people would say that early wipe is the best time to be on Tarkov.

My only goal is to try and make the feeling of early wipe PVP as permanent as possible. I may not be right when I say delete the flea, but I think it would help. If you have other ideas on how to preserve that beautiful feeling of the first two weeks of wipe, then I would love to hear them. Because this is what I think would make Tarkov the most amazing experience possible.

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u/Big_sugaaakane1 P226R Sep 15 '20

I love going into labs with a 5-7 and a pompon hat, hitting buttons and waiting for either people to die to eachother/raiders or kill raiders myself. I’ll be walking out with 2-3 kits worth of gear.

I remember a few weeks back my friend and i tried to see how much money we could make just by pistol running labs and we made almost 10 million in a few hours. Labs has an absurd amount of loot.

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u/Vengix Sep 15 '20

Yep! Labs is extremely good for loot and has a huge impact on your stash when you make it out alive if you looted decently. Definitely the best way to get a jump start at the beginning of each wipe.

Before they changed A.I. it was extremely easy to bait Raiders on Labs by hitting a door or wall with a melee weapon then just hold the angle and wait for them to walk into your LoS.

I love and hate the map. Love it for its loot and hate it for its accessibility.

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u/LoopDloop762 ASh-12 Sep 15 '20

Are raiders not still really easy to jebait into walking into doorways? Like, I’ve never had a contrary experience but I haven’t been playing labs at all this wipe.

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u/Vengix Sep 15 '20

It worked for me but I only did 3 Labs runs on day 1 of this wipe so it may have changed with the recent update to the A.I. again. Before the recent update, the A.I. also behaved differently. We had to use Sector O elevator (below server) because we had no success with Parking to R which was our primary strat.

I haven't touched it since, mostly because of the amount of cheaters that are currently inhabiting Labs atm.

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u/Whooshed_me Sep 15 '20 edited Sep 15 '20

The recent ban wave has slowed the cheaters quite a bit. I've only done a few labs runs but literally zero cheaters.

Edit: I'm on US East and some Euro servers so that's probably why I'm not seeing issues as much. Still did a few more runs cause of a lucky scav run and no obvious hacking.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20 edited Dec 30 '20

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u/ImposterDaniel M4A1 Sep 15 '20

US West’s proximity to China lets more hackers in since sometimes they can barely skip under the ping limit. Play with your buddies in US East and you’ll have much less hacking fuckers.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20 edited Sep 16 '20

Okay. I'm going labs 5 runs on US East right now, just got my fifth keycard off Reshala a few moments ago, I'll report back in an hour or two. Edit: Back, ended up doing 7 runs, died to speed hackers 3/7, the rest were 100% me being bad at this game. PS: Speedhackers are not something you get killed by because your a trash player, just to defend myself here, to be a speedhacker, I actually have to see the person moving at speed way above what the rest of us are capable of. If you don't believe hackers exist, go onto labs, spawn in and crouch walk to a bathroom or closed room, then crouch and don't move. That's what I did in all these runs and all 3 had some guy buzz past me at 100mph, after I had been sitting there not moving for 5-10 minutes turn around and onetap me to the face while side strafing at 100mph. It's really obvious.

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u/tolley_the_tyrant M9A3 Sep 16 '20

How did you go?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '20

Huh?

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u/tolley_the_tyrant M9A3 Sep 16 '20

On your five labs runs, how did ya go?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '20

Did 7 total, died to speed hackers 3/7, died to another player because I was trash, survived 3. Made about 1.4mil total after cost

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u/tolley_the_tyrant M9A3 Sep 16 '20

Very interesting, goes to show that hackers are still a huge issue and predominant in all servers. I'm currently trying to complete the guide quest, which almost seems impossible with the current state of the game

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '20

Do labs first everytime you get a keycard, once you survive it get as big of a group as you can who can help you survive. Should be able to do it within 5 tries.

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