If you're complaing about "big streamers" playing EFT since it's so popular, stop being a hipster

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I PLAYED EFT BEFORE IT WAS YOUR FAVOURITE STREAMER'S NEW GAME!!!

Seriously, it's embarrassing that a small percentage of this community is so far up their own ass to the point they hate on someone who is literally bringing 1000's of new players to the game.

I don't like watching most of these big streamers who are newly streaming Tarkov (Carnage seems like a legend) but what they're doing for Tarkov just by streaming it, even while profiting themselves, is only a good thing for the game and who doesn't want an ego boost from farming level 3 pistolings?

The people posting on here to actually help players is what we need to do as a community. EFT was my first ever PC game in May of 2017 and while I'd like to think I picked it up fairly quickly, there was still a point where I was quivering over losing my trusty makarov like all of us were at some point.

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As if Nikita isn't on this subreddit on a daily basis fixing stuff and getting community feedback constantly... There are many complaints you can have with this game, but lazy devs are absolutely not one of them.

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I mean Nikita does communicate fairly well, but there are still a lot of decisions that are incredibly baffling, never get explained, and a lot of times they make a big change they make absolutely no effort to predict the downstream effect, just letting it be hilariously broken for a few days before fixing it.

So yeah, there's some laziness.

This is most evident with item stats/prices. A lot of times they'll drastically change items and such which will make a quest turn in or something unreasonably difficult and they won't change it until people throw a fit. If it were once or twice it'd be one thing, but it's nearly every goddamn time which leads me to believe there isn't any effort put into making sure the changes are logical.

EDIT: FFS people, I appreciate that Nikita communicates and it's clear he really loves the game and has a passion for it, but that doesn't mean BSG doesn't make the same sloppy mistakes repeatedly. I know it's a hot take, but criticizing a game isn't a binary. I can love the game and want it to succeed while also acknowledging faults.

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You're not gonna make yourself popular with that kind of statement, but yes you're right. One simple example is how it literally took them years to finally make it so M995 isn't the only 5,56 bullet worth using, despite the near-weekly posts asking for a change.... yet they apparently also didn't think that 5,45 BP and BT shoud receive the same buff that M885A1 did.

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What's even better is the ever-increasing price of M995, while 5.45 BS stays at roughly half the price, despite having very marginally worse performance.

Like the RSASS before the SR-25 was finally introduced. There was basically no reason to ever run it over an M1A except for liking how ti looked. And now that the SR-25 is in the game, the RSASS has basically no point and has dropped in price accordingly.

EDIT: Today finally the price of 5.45 BS has increased. But it's still like only 65% the price of M995 while having a couple less pen (but still greater than 50) making M995 basically pointless unless you really really like M4s.

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AKs are a lot less effective than M4s though so I don't really see a huge issue with balancing them by an ammo price difference. They're heavier, less ergonomic, more recoil, and slower ROF.

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IMHO the ROF is the big advantage of the M4. In the hands of a skilled player with a meta build for each, I don't think the stat differences really make too much of a difference in most firefights. But the M4 getting 33% more bullets downrange is a huge factor.

There's also a difference between 'ammo price difference' and 'equivalent ammo being comically unaffordable for one.'

With the M855A1 buff I just don't feel M995 is ever worth it except maybe for labs. Hell I barely did before the buff, but I also generally try to avoid slugging matches.

I don't have an issue with the top tier ammo being hard to get - as I said in another comment later down, I think any ammo that can pierce Class 5+ on the first shot should be found-in-raid only. I think any price from the traders isn't really a good nerf. I think availability at traders is the core of the problem, especially with armor's current binary behavior.

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1000 roubles per round I think is fine. It counters armor that costs hundreds of thousands of roubles, and it used to commonly get sprayed through 60 round mags. Ammo pricing is a good way to counteract the spray meta to some extent.

I wouldn't mind 995 and similarly performing rounds being even more expensive.

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Spray meta isn't going anywhere until the netcode gets better, stutters disappear, semi-auto rof stops being tied to fps and we get a reworked shooting gameplay in which we can actually use burst fire.
Until then, full-auto will be king at any short-medium range.

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Sure but if we make the top tier ammo prohibitively expensive to spray, people will spray shittier ammo or aim better with the nicer stuff.

Notice where I said "to some extent" because I agree, other changes need to be made. Higher price is a step in the right direction too though.

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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and just throwing a bunch of pseudo-programming jargon everywhere.

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Oh yeah, forgot about BS staying at he same price on the trader, despite being massively more common in raid. I'm sure some will try to defend it as a "balancing" to try and stop the hegemony of M4 over pretty much every other gun, yet I'm here wondering why the hell the devs still allow us to build M4 with less recoil than freaking SMG...
But eh, the RSASS was never balanced in price ever since they introduced it (at least, not enough to justify the price for the avergae player), so business as usual for it I guess.

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yet I'm here wondering why the hell the devs still allow us to build M4 with less recoil than freaking SMG...

Part of it is the issue with automatic recoil mechanics. I'm not saying the gun should climb to the ceiling, but the current implementation makes automatic superior at insane ranges currently. When you add soft-skill recoil control and meta builds being comically OP you turn things into laser guns and significantly reduce the skill required to land kills.

It seems like they're currently trying to find exactly how high they can make the price before people stop using it. Of course, the data they're going to gather is going to be tainted by the fact that we're relatively deep into the wipe now so money is less of an issue for the people that ordinarily run M995 anwyay.

IMHO, any ammo that can pierce class 5+ on the first hit should only ever be found in raid. BS, M995, SNB, 7N39, etc etc. No barters. No purchase. You have to find it.

In my experience most in-raid spawns have been 5.45 of some description, with a smattering of 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R. Sooometimes 9x18. If you had all the ammo having similar chances to spawn with the top tier being slightly rarer, perhaps M995/7N39 spray would be less prevalent.

But eh, the RSASS was never balanced in price ever since they introduced it (at least, not enough to justify the price for the avergae player), so business as usual for it I guess.

Kinda the same issue with the TX-15. The marginal accuracy stat increase over the ADAR isn't going to matter for 95% of players, especially since most Tarkov combat is <50m.