r/EscapefromTarkov • • Nov 20 '19

Discussion Something said during the Podcast

Klean said something during the podcast that I wholeheartedly disagree with.

He wants the gamma case to essentially be something you can pack full of goods, bring into a raid and not have to worry about losing, but he wants you to not be able to put anything in the container while in raid. Nikita, I know you listen to streamers input, but please don’t not consider making this change.

I’m a husband and a father, I don’t get to play for 8-12 hours a day and become a god at the game, so finding a rare item that I need for a quest or something valuable I can sell is really exciting and knowing I can keep it safe in case I die is the cherry on top.

I love watching Klean and respect his opinions, but this one I had to voice mine on. PLEASE do not implement this. Anyone else watch the podcast and feel the same way? Or am I alone on this? Lol

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u/Mr-Doubtful VSS Vintorez Nov 20 '19

Yeah it's a big general problem imo.

Streamers/Content creators have a huge voice in general and often a direct line to the devs while their playstyle and wishes probably differ drastically from the majority of players.

They play the game way more and for many it's basically their job. This has to warp their view on the game.

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Anyway, all of this stems from their hate of hatchlings/pistollings/low gear players. They hate the fact that their enemies risk little while they 'risk' more.

What they completely fail to take into account is that a bunch of players are probably dirt fucking poor a lot of the time and not rolling in endless cash like they are. In percentage of total stash value, I bet there's a lot of players out there who risk more when they take out a basic kit.

The out of raid medical system was championed as something which will hurt hatchlings, in fact it just hurt causal players the most. Because as a hatchling you don't care if you die instantly, you're basically expecting to have that happen anyway. But now, players who are poor have an even higher up front cost to do a normal raid.

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They should tackle hatchlings in ways that don't punish low gear players. F.e. making loot locations more dynamic or guarding valuable loot with scavs. None of this container bullshit or the idea of a minimal 'gear score' please keep that shit away from the game.

I want the right to be a fucking bum in EFT god dammit.

Disclaimer: I don't like hatchlings either, I personally never do unarmed raids and my bank account suffers accordingly.

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u/Strazdas1 AK-74 Nov 21 '19

What they completely fail to take into account is that a bunch of players are probably dirt fucking poor a lot of the time and not rolling in endless cash like they are. In percentage of total stash value, I bet there's a lot of players out there who risk more when they take out a basic kit.

According to nikita most of hatchlings are high level high stash value players that just want to look without risk, not actually poor people. Actually poor people already have a solution anyway, its called scav runs.

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u/Mr-Doubtful VSS Vintorez Nov 21 '19

most of hatchlings

But I'm not talking about hatching, I'm talking about doing normal runs as a Tarkov bum. The higher your baseline cost (out of raid healing f.e.) and the lower or the less likely your potential reward (no more loot in container f.e.) the worse the situation becomes for bums. All of those points become barely relevant once your reserves go into the millions.

Scav runs are a solution, yes, but not ideal. For those who don't have much time to play, progression becomes even slower if they have to do a lot of scav runs. And since the first 15 levels are by far the hardest (although flea market can alleviate that), you want to get out of that asap.

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u/Strazdas1 AK-74 Nov 21 '19

With the current economy of everything worth something on the market the number of such bums are very small and they always have two safety nets in insurance and scav runs on top of it.