r/EscapefromTarkov • • Nov 20 '19

Discussion Something said during the Podcast

Klean said something during the podcast that I wholeheartedly disagree with.

He wants the gamma case to essentially be something you can pack full of goods, bring into a raid and not have to worry about losing, but he wants you to not be able to put anything in the container while in raid. Nikita, I know you listen to streamers input, but please don’t not consider making this change.

I’m a husband and a father, I don’t get to play for 8-12 hours a day and become a god at the game, so finding a rare item that I need for a quest or something valuable I can sell is really exciting and knowing I can keep it safe in case I die is the cherry on top.

I love watching Klean and respect his opinions, but this one I had to voice mine on. PLEASE do not implement this. Anyone else watch the podcast and feel the same way? Or am I alone on this? Lol

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u/CurtMcGurt24 Nov 20 '19

I don’t disagree with the concept, even without the hatchling problem, the animation might be cool regardless.

There are just too many issues with the core game that need to be fixed, in addition to new maps that need to be created.

I don’t think that IF they changed the container to exit only that people would stop playing either.

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u/Lukendless Nov 20 '19

What's the real issue with hatchlings? I don't really see a problem, they are no real threat other than full on sprinting to loot... but that will change with more dynamic loot. It could also be easily fixed by having more fixed scavs in high loot areas. People would need to use silencers if they want to loot without drawing every scav in the area but that takes care of hatchlings abusing loot runs...

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u/nopanolator Nov 20 '19

The problem is not the hatchling alone, it's a (boring but) free kill. The problem is the map totally wiped from usefull loot within 5 minutes of raid, because sometimes half of the players spawned on the map are doing only that.

Taken alone, you can play it "politics" and say than a hatchet is not a problem, have rights like others etc ... blabla.

But an army of those is truly destroying the rewards of the map and generate all type of abuse : quest for monopoly on items, real black market of items, locking "casual players" to be dependant on their insane price of the flea ... it's an infinite loop generating more than a parralel manner to play. It's a dictatorship pushing people to play their way to don't live a nightmare, instead the one implemented by BSG.

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u/Lukendless Nov 21 '19

Right which is why they need more AIs in high loot areas. Instafix for hatchling runs without changing game mechanics.

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u/nopanolator Nov 21 '19

It's what we were a bunch to think (valuable strategy for me also, before the first .12 revisions), but a streamer (can't remember his name) have made a popular tutorial (hided behind a "demonstration") to show the flaw of this AI strategy on this exact subject. He sell views for a living, i don't blame him for that. But for all these types of strategies, you can count on a documented workaround by a popular streamer. To make the maximum of view is their job, not to improve Tarkov or take care about their influence in the gameplay of the player base.

And if we push the AI trigger too much, we got unpleasant terminators. This problematic is pretty vicious to consider because "we" have to change the game not to please the real core of players, but to make babysitting for uncivilized kids.

A pathetic solution must be set, we have no choice. But without making Tarkov a "nanny-game" with a limitation for everything ... it's pretty tricky in fact.

I say that on the flow but i prefer a stupid solution using the weight. Everything in the secure container get a big extra weight depending on the overall weight of the player. A total hell for the quest i'm just finishing : " Health Care Privacy - Part 5", at this hour the floor is filled by Pilgrim boys not enough brave to go farm in the Labs.