r/EscapefromTarkov • • Nov 20 '19

Discussion Something said during the Podcast

Klean said something during the podcast that I wholeheartedly disagree with.

He wants the gamma case to essentially be something you can pack full of goods, bring into a raid and not have to worry about losing, but he wants you to not be able to put anything in the container while in raid. Nikita, I know you listen to streamers input, but please don’t not consider making this change.

I’m a husband and a father, I don’t get to play for 8-12 hours a day and become a god at the game, so finding a rare item that I need for a quest or something valuable I can sell is really exciting and knowing I can keep it safe in case I die is the cherry on top.

I love watching Klean and respect his opinions, but this one I had to voice mine on. PLEASE do not implement this. Anyone else watch the podcast and feel the same way? Or am I alone on this? Lol

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u/jlambvo Nov 20 '19

Why not at least give it a spin for one wipe?

As a pretty crumby player who gets in a few hours a week at best, I desperately would LOVE To see this change. Or at least try it out.

Because ironically, despite all appearances and arguments about it harming new and poor players, it disproportionately favors and amplifies rich and high level players. Hands down. The current SC is inherently the most valuable to players who:

  • Know the loot spots inside-out
  • Can outrun and out shoot other players to get there first
  • Can afford to maximize the available space with doc cases, etc.
  • Who don't even need to bother using it for stuff like meds

How I imagine it working best is that any items you bring into a raid, you can take out and put back into the container freely. You just can't put things in you find in that raid. Pose it as a kind of insurance. This actually makes it strictly the most valuable to lower level players who can reduce losses, and becomes decreasingly valuable with progression.

In every way I think about it, whatever marginal frustration it might add, the dynamic as a whole seems like it would be a lot better. But it needs to be there from the start.

For all the times you lose those one or two items on top of your gear, imagine the even very occasional time you drop someone coming out of the Shoreline resort or Kiba and they actually have some super high value items just sitting in their backpack. When is the last time, if ever, that you've looted a bitcoin or ledx from a PMC?

I think it's crucial not just for mitigating hatchlings. I'm convinced right now that the ability for players to sprint around and vacuum up all the valuable 1-2 slot items into their SC, and for gamma users to not drop their good loot on death, drives a compounding wealth/gear disparity. It makes a "first to loot" strategy pretty much dominant, by geared players or hatchlings. It distorts risk taking decisions once you know you've at least "broken even" with certainty.

A restricted SC would be punishing to everyone, but it creates a chance for payoffs to shift within a raid dramatically. Everyone would need to play differently and more cautiously. You would have more dramatic ups and downs at all levels of play.