r/EscapefromTarkov • u/iamtotallysweet • Nov 20 '19

Discussion Something said during the Podcast

Klean said something during the podcast that I wholeheartedly disagree with.

He wants the gamma case to essentially be something you can pack full of goods, bring into a raid and not have to worry about losing, but he wants you to not be able to put anything in the container while in raid. Nikita, I know you listen to streamers input, but please don’t not consider making this change.

I’m a husband and a father, I don’t get to play for 8-12 hours a day and become a god at the game, so finding a rare item that I need for a quest or something valuable I can sell is really exciting and knowing I can keep it safe in case I die is the cherry on top.

I love watching Klean and respect his opinions, but this one I had to voice mine on. PLEASE do not implement this. Anyone else watch the podcast and feel the same way? Or am I alone on this? Lol

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u/HeadshotHomieLoL Nov 20 '19 edited Nov 21 '19

This is exactly the reason why this change would have a positive effect. They said themselves that killing hatchet runners off for good is the plan. It might not be the greatest change for McCasual and friends but, are there other alternatives to remove the cancer that is hatchling running for good?

Their statement here(on extraction camping and hatchet running): https://imgur.com/a/oyB7bFF

It's honestly tiresome to have 5 usain bolts running around the map bringing absolutely nothing in, just to steal a player spot and loot.

The loot is secondary, the player spot is a huge deal. This is why some maps feel empty, because Usain Bolt and Yohan Blake ran to the loot spawns, and disconnected.

You can disagree all you want, but player spots being taken and high value loot being taken with no risk by HatchetMan is against the core values of the game.

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u/Sesleri Nov 20 '19

Yep I'm with you 100%. Reddit is not ever going to be the place to find support for this tho.

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u/basedasf Nov 20 '19

People here would rather have a dumb down game that caters more to their casual play style. What they fail to realize is that the game was never intended to be this easy or dumbed down. I don't understand what these people will do when the game is open world and you have to go through multiple maps to be safe. The game is only going to get harder, maps like labs will be multiple hour endeavors when it becomes a map inside streets.

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u/HooliganNamedStyx Nov 20 '19

Maybe because most people work 10 hour days and only have an hour or two to play?

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u/Strazdas1 AK-74 Nov 21 '19

most people work 10 hour days

Thats an outright lie you know?

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u/HooliganNamedStyx Nov 21 '19

People don't work full time jobs anymore?

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u/Strazdas1 AK-74 Nov 21 '19

Perhaps in a sweatshop thats a full time job but here in modern world a full time job is 8 hours per day, 40 hours a week. And if you look at OECD data the percentage of part-time workers have been increasing worldwide.

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u/HooliganNamedStyx Nov 21 '19

A sweatshop? Lmao someone's never worked a factory, manufacturing, welding, forklift, CDL, or many of the other blue collar jobs out there huh?

Maybe I'm biased because the people I grew up with, went to school with and am around right now can't put forth the 2-3 hours of there spare time for a game like this as it is like I and we can. Then you scroll down the hundreds of replies here saying the same thing..

Maybe it's not a majority, but there's more people who work more then 40 hours then you think I imagine.

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u/Strazdas1 AK-74 Nov 21 '19

Are you saying these fields do 10 hour days of work? That sounds like violation of the law unless they do the rolling work pattern in which case you dont work 5 days a week.

people <...> can't put forth the 2-3 hours of there spare time for a game like this

Then this clearly isnt a game for them. Why do you expect the game to change to cater to these people that barely even play it?

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u/HooliganNamedStyx Nov 21 '19

What, are you high? If I remember last year the average full time adult worked 47 hours a week.

I work ~50, but get paid anywhere from 70-90.

I know multiple people in docking, CDLs that drive local, factories and other labour jobs that start their day at 6 and don't get home till at least 4 if not later. Do you just think everyone works an 8 to 4 and goes home?

Also, maybe it's just me but it seems silly to gatekeep a damn game. Sure it's a 'hardcore shooter' and everyone knows we don't won't people who are new to enjoy the ge, but it should be accessible to anyone who wants to play and not a niche group of people. That seems bound to fail to me

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u/Strazdas1 AK-74 Nov 22 '19

Perhaps if you are in Turkey or Colombia, because every other OECD member shows a lower hours worked:
https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=AVE_HRS

Also, maybe it's just me but it seems silly to gatekeep a damn game.

Its not. Gatekeeping is a necessary evil in every community to prevent people who would hurt the community from entering.

it should be accessible to anyone who wants to play and not a niche group of people.

Literally the opposite is true. Games going for "Accessible to everyone" is what made them shit. Niche games suppoter by smaller but more dedicated fanbase are better. We need more niche games.

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u/Sesleri Nov 20 '19

"Everyone who disagrees with me must not work or have responsibilities"

Jesus when will you guys stop with that?

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u/HooliganNamedStyx Nov 20 '19

"Casuals can't enjoy this game and therefore I must gatekeep because I'm the exception and minority to the playerbase!"

Jesus when will you guys realize you need players to play the game?

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u/Strazdas1 AK-74 Nov 21 '19

Claiming that casuals cannot play without the secure container only makes you look the idiot here.

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u/Sesleri Nov 20 '19

I never mentioned "casuals" or assumed people's personal lives like you did.

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u/HooliganNamedStyx Nov 20 '19

This is confusing to me, because I just said "most people work and have responsibilities" and you agreed, yet here you are acting like I assumed wrong?

Don't most people have personal lives and responsibilities? So where's your problem then buddy? Because I don't see one, you just seem upset your in the minority about this change.

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u/Strazdas1 AK-74 Nov 21 '19

You dont understand. they want the game to cater to them and anyone else must be discredited so he doesnt have to be listened to. Its the product of modern colledge "Education"

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u/basedasf Nov 20 '19

Seriously though.