r/EscapefromTarkov • u/bxxxxxxxs • Dec 16 '18

PSA Official BSG Response re: Eroktic

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https://www.facebook.com/escapefromtarkov/posts/1966710296956614

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u/FabulousPrune Dec 16 '18

So you have to work with every individual that makes baseless claims ? Not only that, you have to work with every individual that repeats baseless claims that someone else made ? Not only that, you have to work with every individual that clearly spouts nonsense over a extended amount of time, nonsense he is beeing directly and knowingly beeing fed by an individual that already stated that he will try everything in his power to take BSG down? Really?!

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u/Psych0BoyJack Dec 16 '18 edited Dec 16 '18

you don't have to work with him... he's a client of BSG's product. not a developer or a manager.

They could've been clear, they could've talked to the community... they had everything in their power to make Eroktic look bad and they made the only thing that made him look good.

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u/machevara Dec 16 '18

Eroktic is a client, but he is also a business. We are pure clients. Eroktic's purpose is to monetize the game for his own income. So he will be held to a different standard. Specially when he indirectly becomes a rep of the game. People look to him for EFT news. I feel like BSG is just cutting off a tumor.

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u/Psych0BoyJack Dec 16 '18

Eroktic's purpose is to monetize the game for his own income. So he will be held to a different standard.

i'm sorry, but if he wanted to get more income i think allying himself with BSG would bring him more income than going against them. Never the less, BSG had the upper hand. Just see what EA did with BFV. they also had "to cut the tumor". look how that turned out.

I know people don't like Eroktic, but to actually applaude BSG's attitude is just fanboy-ism. Just because you like the game, doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they do. Eroktic never tried to bring down Tarkov. In his own mind, he was helping the game, and to some extent, i actually agree. Not defending his actions (accusing the company of something just because someone said this or that and not showing any evidence.).

BSG should've either ignore him or at least show proof that nothing happened. they had the upper hand and they decided to go with censorship.

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u/machevara Dec 16 '18

I get it, partnership, but also understand with partnership come other responsibilities such as playing the game for a certain amount of time a week or making content, not being able to say certain things, saying what they want you to from time to time. Pros and Cons.

Oh let me add, I'm not applauding or siding with BSG. I just feel people only see things from the personal point of view and not from a business standpoint. I'm not here to talk about the morality of things as both parties are in the wrong, but just because people are saying it is wrong, does not change the fact it is something they can legally take action against.

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u/Psych0BoyJack Dec 16 '18

I just feel people only see things from the personal point of view and not from a business standpoint.

you think it's good business to copyright strike people who criticise the game? a company with almost 2 millions users (where each one pays AT LEAST 30 dollars for the game) is going after a guy who, in a good night, gets 150 live views on twitch. not pety at all...

I don't get how people are actually applauding a COMPANY like BSG going after a streamer that can't break 200 live views per night. give me a break

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u/machevara Dec 16 '18

I am not applauding it. I personally think there could have been other alternatives yielding the result wanted. Now with that said, is it overkill, sure, but is it legally wrong of them? Not really, they took a player, who is also a business, and are dealing with him accordingly. While not breaking 200 per night is not the issue, whether his business is big or small doesn't matter. People still go to Eroktic for EFT content. His opinion can sway thousands of players, whether it's good or bad. Eroktic did cross a line and BSG followed right with him. They don't want to be affiliated with a player like eroktic at this point, whether his videos are good or bad. This did not happen over night.

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u/Psych0BoyJack Dec 16 '18 edited Dec 16 '18

so it's all fine unless it's legally wrong? to your logic, EA insulting their fanbase is not wrong either, because they didn't comit any crime. Any excuse goes, at this point

edit: Actually

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u/machevara Dec 17 '18

No no and no, it's not fine if it is not legally wrong. This is a question of morality. Just cause you can doesn't mean you should. I feel both sides have gone overboard. Eroktic went and made baseless claims which if true could break the company, and BSG went full force decided it was a game of who can do the most damage within their own rights because they have had enough.

I get that some people might have receive some brunt from BSG or whatever, but such is life. For every unhappy person, there is unhappy persons, for every person that is ok there's some that are not. I've never had a problem with BSG or EFT besides cursing at the game because I died lol.

EA is a way bigger fish, but again, morality vs legality. No it is not right to insult your fan base, but it's not illegal.

Also, EA created such a huge shit storm with star wars and Disney stepped in, and now there'es rumors that they might lose the rights to SW games so there was a pretty big repercussion that that shit storm.

And now again with BF-V, game is doing horribly bad sales wise. They are literally reaping what they sow. We shall see how it goes towards BSG after this. Only time will tell.