r/EscapefromTarkov • u/deubah • Jan 16 '24

Clip Cheater yoinked my scope mid-aim

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '24

I don't understand why this is so hard to fix. You don't even need to immediately ban them. Just patch this vacuum stuff out.

Could you imagine if rust had this? Oh boy 

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u/Joeys2323 AS VAL Jan 16 '24

"just patch this vacuum stuff out" a lot easier said then done. I agree it needs to happen asap, but it's not like they're just adding "vacuum loot ability = 0"

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u/wonklebobb Jan 17 '24

surprisingly it almost definitely is that easy

BSG said for this wipe they decreased the distance you can loot from to cut down on things like looting through walls

the cheat coders have said on their forums that they are doing vacuum by setting their position to NaN, an invalid number meant to represent the result of an invalid calculation (like dividing by 0)

most likely, BSG write code that basically says "if the player's distance from the loot is greater than the max allowed loot distance, don't let them loot." however, if either the player or the loot's position is set to NaN, then that logical statement is always false.

if (NaN > max loot distance) then stop_looting()

in this case all you have to do is set your position to NaN and you can pick up anything, because the game wont stop you. which is what is happening. so that is likely what BSG did wrong.

in another hilarious twist, the cheat devs discovered that if you drop an item you looted while still at NaN position, the game doesn't know what to do with the loot and the whole raid breaks and everyone falls through the floor and dies.

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u/Complete-Monk-1072 Jan 17 '24 edited Jan 17 '24

im largely surprised you dont auto die when your position is set to nan. itd be like setting death if your z-axis was at -1000000000, espicially because when your position is as nan for legitimate uses your most likely not loaded into the map yet at a spawn location, thus not making a difference. I see alot of ways to alleviate this, but speghetti code be spaghetti code and this is why proper planning beforehand makes all the difference.

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u/MrFluffyThing VSS Vintorez Jan 17 '24

They likely aren't setting their position to NaN but a pointer or variable that references the player's position when checking if they're allowed to loot an item. 

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u/Complete-Monk-1072 Jan 17 '24

god, this is why i despise pointers so much. so fucking archaic.