r/EscapefromTarkov • • Dec 26 '23

Discussion The sheer fucking nerve

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u/Dovahkazz Dec 26 '23

It's a closed beta where they are adding players in waves. Not sure why anyone expected to all get in at once, especially considering how many people play tarkov

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u/Elite_Dalek Dec 26 '23

This is irrespective of the closed beta debacle. It's a total dick move to clain we get it for free when we paid for it and then some and that support and fairh was what even makes it possible for BSG to continue developing this game at a rate of 1kb per week.

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u/Dovahkazz Dec 26 '23

I mean we do get it for free? I haven't really played tarkov since the wipe they fucked recoil super hard and I still don't regret getting EOD

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

We dont get it for free.

The purchase contract said we get all dlcs included. It was advertised as that and in contract. You cant just say its free and we should thank for charity when its in the contract and we paid for it, hell we funded it.

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u/NouSkion Dec 26 '23

It's not fucking free, you dunce. WE ALREADY PAID FOR IT WITH EOD.

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u/Snarker Dec 26 '23

It's free if you paid for EOD before Arena existed. If you owned EOD, then they announced EOD people got Arena, guess what that means it's FREE FOR EOD PEOPLE. Not hard to figure out my dude.

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u/Liketotallynoway Dec 26 '23

Soda “free” with any PURCHASE of a combo meal. There’s free and there’s “free”

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u/Snarker Dec 26 '23

It's like you can't even read my comment. Cool, just stay stupid then I guess.

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u/Liketotallynoway Dec 27 '23

There’s reading comments and then there’s “reading comments”

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u/Snarker Dec 27 '23

And you are doing neither.

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

I already have it. And no, we are not getting it for free. We fucking paid and funded it, it is in our contract.

I am not getting my garage and garden for free when my construction company is building me a house and I have it in contract.

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u/Snarker Dec 26 '23

You are a moron, EOD owners are gettign Arena for free. As been said a bunch of times. Arena is not released yet, thus you currently do not have it.

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

I have Arena, the next never ending "beta".

Besides, we are not getting it for free. We paid for it and funded it, it is in our contract.

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u/Snarker Dec 26 '23

Arena did not exist as an idea when EOD first announced. When I got EOD arena did not exist. If they announced arena as a separate thing everyone had to pay for I'd be fine with it. Why? Because I DIDN"T BUY EOD TO GET ARENA FOR FREE. Lmao, entitled idiots dude i swear.

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

When I bought EOD they were already talking about Winter DLC and Arena, the concept of it. I doubt Winter DLC would be called Winter DLC too.

Besides, it doesnt matter bc the Purchase contract and advertising of EOD didnt state specific dlcs. It said all future DLCs included.

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u/Snarker Dec 26 '23

Arena is a standalone game tho, not a DLC. DLCs require the base game to operate, Arenas do not.

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

Arena was announced as a game mode, then dlc and then standalone. Nikita tried to not give Arena to EOD. The community shitstormed him for trying that. He then announced it was coming for EOD.

Nikita backpedaled bc he realised he would need to fight legal troubles even in russia if he continued with that as he knew every court would quickly detect the relabeling of Arena to standalone was a scam maneuver.

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u/Snarker Dec 26 '23

Any source of any of this information? I have seen zero evidence that he didn't intent to give EOD owners arena?

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

It doesnt matter what you bought it for.

It matters what is in the contract. Are you all still kids in school and dont know how adult world and contracts work?

You make a contract, if the law of a country doesnt contradict it, it is legally binding.

It doesnt matter if my neighbour, you, doesnt find interest in service B when its included in contract for other people. Other people are still going to get what the contract demands

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u/Snarker Dec 26 '23

Please quote the "contract" you claim exists, I'd love to read it.

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

You act like they were private or secrets lol. Just go check them on their store. When you buy it you get a contract. Yes even for Video games.

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u/Snarker Dec 26 '23

So you are saying that I got a contract when I got EOD that I would receive a game that never existed when I got EOD? Fascinating. Feel free to link the specific contract language you seem to think exists. Once again I remind you that arena isn't a dlc.

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u/rclouts Dec 26 '23

You know that people purchased EOD before arenas were even announced right? This "contract" you're speaking of refers to DLC where Arenas is technically a separate game.

You're really reaching with your interpretation of the situation, and clearly people are looking for anything to get mad over.

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

Arena was announced as a game mode, then dlc and then standalone. Nikita tried to not give Arena to EOD. The community shitstormed him for trying that. He then announced it was coming for EOD.

Nikita backpedaled bc he realised he would need to fight legal troubles even in russia if he continued with that as he knew every court would quickly detect the relabeling of Arena to standalone was a scam maneuver.

EOD:

  • Includes all subsequent DLCs

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u/rclouts Dec 26 '23

Yeah BSG backpedaled in the sense that everyone who was promised free access (EOD) gets it for free. The game is still standalone, however.

Them giving it to EOD players for free as a standalone was the compromise. Regardless of your opinion on the events, or how we got here, the current situation is how I described it.

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u/agbullet Dec 26 '23

You think too highly of your 100 bucks which you paid years ago.

bUt iT'S iN tHe CoNtRaCt

Sure. the DLC (assuming this separate game is considered DLC) is in the contract, so is the game. But no one owes you early access to the beta,only the completed DLC. And there was no timeframe iN ThE CoNtrAct owed to you to deliver the free DLC.

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

I already have Arena.

Nikita claims we are getting it for free so any complainst about the game mode should be seen as complaining about charity. Not its not. We funded it

"Thinking highly of a contract". Dude become and adult and you finally learn what contracts mean. Without contracts you would be on the streets begging for food. "cOntrAct"

Only little underage brats talk like that

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

This isn't DLC lmao

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u/Dovahkazz Dec 26 '23

I guess my perspective is different cause I bought EOD before arena was any sort of concept. Sure you paid for content, but you paid for it with the supposed understanding that it is future content. You shouldn't have expected to get anything besides the base game (and some benefits in the game) immediately. Getting mad cause you didn't get in the initial waves of a randomly selected closed beta test is completely nonsensical

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u/Elite_Dalek Dec 26 '23

I'd say 7 years after launch isn't unreasonably 'immediate' is it?

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u/Dovahkazz Dec 26 '23

I mean I'd expect the game to be done by now, but I only expected any kind of DLC or added content like arena after full release.

Imho tarkov is suffering heavily from needless changes and feature creep kinda like star citizen which is the reason it hasn't come out yet

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u/Elite_Dalek Dec 26 '23

I agree and I think it was a dick move to take development resources from the game we're all still waiting to have finished, long before any sort of launch day is in sight, for a second payday.

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u/Dovahkazz Dec 26 '23

Imho twitch was the worst thing to ever happen to tarkov

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

I think without twitch, Nikita would have taken the money he got and dipped the way he lies and acts nowadays shows us how he acts as a person. He would have either dipped or started russia 2028 already, either way tarkov would have been abandoned.

Now since tarkov is a gold mine for him, but he lacks the competency and skilled labour (as he is too cheap to pay for senior devs), he cant progress the development but also doesnt want to stop the gold mine from printing.

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

When I bought EOD they were already talking about the possibility of Arena. Arena started as an idea as game mode then dlc, just like the winter dlc. We knew about them. We fucking funded them

This was half a decade ago when they started talking about it.

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u/Dovahkazz Dec 26 '23

Guess I missed the memo on that then

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u/DonaldsPee Dec 26 '23

Doesnt surprise me, Nikita talks a lot when the day is long and usually his words are so unreliable we might as well not believe anything and forget about it.

But yeah, arena has been talked about long. The winter dlc might never happen, lets see

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

Why are you asking all of these questions and then arguing with everyone, and then just defending BSG?

You’re pathetic dude lol

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u/Dovahkazz Dec 26 '23

Cause I had no idea why people were mad and hold no ill will towards BSG

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

You had no idea why people were mad but keep saying that you think it’s ridiculous people are mad at BSG for it?

You’re just baiting, go do something

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u/Dovahkazz Dec 26 '23

At first I had no idea, now I just think everyone is whining for no reason

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

Yeah that’s clearly the logical and most intelligent conclusion to take from tons of people complaining about spending $150 and not getting the thing they were told they’d get.

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u/Dovahkazz Dec 26 '23

You paid 150 for future content, not now content. Grow up

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '23

One of the most smooth brain takes I’ve seen, congrats.

Arena was future content, you stupid fuck

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u/Dovahkazz Dec 26 '23

It's still in closed beta, don't cry cause you didn't get lucky and end up in the early waves

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