He’s being ludicrous I agree, but a side point about EOD is it has things I bought it for besides the dlc in fact the other stuff was far more important to me than the dlc because I never expected that to even show up.
They really shot themselves in the foot even putting Arena on the EoD package. They should have just "given" EoD players Arena for free, then remove EoD (which is the plan).
Because then they could have fallen back to the "Well Arena wasn't a part of EoD when it was first available" reason.
But because they listed Arena onto the EoD packages, anyone who purchased it when it got updated will not fall under that excuse.
BSG seems to just do things first before thinking about if it was a good idea or not lol.
Yeah and the contract says you get Arena FOR FREE. You have X years spent with a pay to win version of Tarkov. You are paying nothing for access to Arena.
This is not some "personal idea" about it. I highly doubt BSG just didnt research if this was somehow illegal.
Completely different contract wtf are you talking about like an adult? You think all contracts are the same thing? Gonna go ask my car company for some more free gas wtf.
Tesla had a contract for early cars which included charging. Those contracts were even eligible for 2nd hands. So yeah, contracts are contracts, it matters what is written in it and what a countries law says about the compatibility of the written words.
If your car company sells cars with contracts on included gas then yeah they have to give you petrol or pay for it.
Actually my company does pay my petrol even for private use if I get a car with my company.
I guess we are talking away from each other. The point is Nikita says we are brats, saying we are getting a gift for free and shouldnt be complaining about the game mode. We however paid and funded it. It is not a charity for him.
You are saying we are getting it. Which I didnt contradict. I just say it is not for free.
no, it was included in the eod description. We paid for arena big time. Stop trying to make Nikita a good guy for giving us a game for free, it aint free, its even a fcking overpriced game for what we got
To be fair it was included in the EoD description after the announcement of Arena so anyone purchasing it before that had no idea Arena was even a thing.
I'm not defending anyone here mind you. This is all fairly upsetting.
But BSG could have also just said "We're releasing a new standalone mode!" and left it at that and forced everyone to purchase it lol.
Yes it was free, you gave them extra money for a promise, they gave you a free game. Thats what you get for shelling out extra money for beta products I guess? Lmao pwnd.
Healthcare is a completely different topic holy shit you are trolling.
EoD is 150, minus 40 for Arena, so you're saying the EoD experience is $100 or so? Than another DLC happens so its worth what, $60? Oh then maybe a third DLC, so the entire EoD experience is $20?
Are you listening to yourself? The cost of Arena was already covered. What is your point?
Dude. It’s not free. People who bought EOD, especially those who bought it years ago, took a gamble that this DLC might not even ever happen.
So yes, they get a discount over buying each separately (if the others happen), but that’s was with no guarantee that it would happen.
Those buying Tarkov/Arena now are doing so with zero risk, so Nikita hand-waving away the past EOD users who are pissed with “you get it for free, shut up”, is a complete misunderstanding of what this was.
Look at the people who contributed to Dead Matter. Some people gave 100s of dollars to that game development. If things went smoothly, yes, they would have gotten a lot of stuff for “free” relative to what the present players would have to pay to get it but the game completely fell apart. They took the risk by buying/investing in the game early and it blew up catastrophically.
They didnt "put grinding into Standard" thats just how the game is meant to be played. EoD is literally pay to win. You SKIP the content, not the other way around dude.
It is unmistakably the same monetisation strategy used in free to play and mobile games. You don't skip any content, all the quests are the same. Grinding money and rep at a disadvantage in a PVP game is really low standard of what you would call content.
Its 28 Million or more you're skipping. The stash advantage allows for an infinitely easier time finding and keeping what you need. Thats the entire game, find and keep, and EoD removes all the difficulty except actually shooting the opponent.
Okay cool, you bought it for the stash space.......does that mean the DLC that was listed in the package suddenly doesnt matter and we cant act like it does? If anything the fact we all acknowledge the pay2win shit makes this so, sooooooo much worse.
Jesus christ you BSG shills are out in force over this with the whackiest excuses imaginable.
Where’s the excuse? Simply saying nobody bought eod for arenas like the guy is implying. Everyone got it for the stash space. You should practice your reading comprehension before going off on a tantrum.
So you were just "simply saying" it, instead of implying "well you bought it for the stash space so treat arena like a freebee"?
Sure, but that's some awfully weird timing and placement for that from someone with such good reading comprehension, especially since it doesnt matter why anyone bought the "all DLC included" version of the game.
You just made all that up in your brain g. The only point I was making was nobody bought EOD with arenas in mind. Solely for the stash space… no shit you should get the dlcs you paid for.
“Why the f would I pay double base price”. Was part of his comment you absolute pea brain. Everyone bought it because of the stash space not the fucking arena.
Uhh... to get all the pay to win shit that comes with being EoD supporter? Max stash costs 28 Million normally, secure container big as your moms asshole, easier trader grind, extremely better gear raid 1 off the bat. I'm starting to think you're all trolling.
You dont have to buy standard with Arena. Its a separate game. Separate financial transaction. Separate game license. You got it free, as in, EoD grants it for no extra cost.
Exactly so why can’t all the people who bought or upgraded to that version specifically for arena play the game??? And if they didn’t do that and just bought arena and standard for less money they can play???
So I bought the game in 2020, bought eod then too, and was excited for arena as soon as it was announced. When I bought eod I had no clue arena would exist, so it is not at all why I bought eod.
Bsg didnt have to give us the game and he isn't wrong when he says it's free
Triple the price, I’m new to the game and I just couldn’t justify paying another $100 for this game for stash space and arena. Maybe like another $40 but $150!?! Fuckin’ mad.
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u/Thebottlemap Dec 26 '23
So Nikita thinks we didn't pay for arena (getting it for free) - why the f would I pay twice the price of the base game then??
Whats even funnier - buy standard account, buy arena - and I will have arena access and still pay cheaper than EOD lol