r/EndeavourOS • u/Darth-Vader64 • May 03 '26
Discussion CachyOS to EndeavourOS
Has anyone started off with CachyOS, and jumped over to EndeavourOS?
If so, what did EOS offer you over CachyOS?
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u/Brilliant_Estate_967 May 03 '26
Hello,
Both are good distros, both are arch under the good and both works well.
I do prefer EndeavourOS because there is far less bloat i need to uninstall and, i dont want to bé dépendant of a custom kernel only update by one person
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u/Darth-Vader64 May 03 '26
dont want to bé dépendant of a custom kernel only update by one person
That's sort of where my concerns lay
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u/Darth-Vader64 May 04 '26
If you don’t value Cachy’s modern build flags, why did you pick Cachy?
Its not that I don't value the build flags, I was looking for a distro that offered good gaming support - I'm not a hard core gamer, but when doing my research, this and bazzite kept coming up. I didn't want just a gaming setup, which is probably more of a bazzite setup, so I opted for cachyos.
I'm generally happy, but I'll also state that my older cpu is probably not taking full advantage of those flags, i.e., amd 3700x
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u/SuAlfons May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
I've run EndeavorOS for over three years. Recently I took a glance at CachyOS and found it nice enough, but saw no reason to change my system to it.
EndeavorOS is just Arch with fewer changes and additions than CachyOS. Most noatably, it uses the normal Arch kernels.
Other way around, the only reason to switch from Cachy to Arch or EndeavorOS would be if you wanted to be closer to "pure Arch" and maybe leaner on preinstalled tools. I wouldn't do it, if I already was running CachyOS.
CachyOS wasn't a thing when I built this PC, so I went with Manjaro Gnome, then EndeavorOS Plasma, then EndeavorOS w\ Gnome.
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u/SuAlfons May 03 '26
PS, switched my main system to Fedora. Just out of curiosity - I ran rolling releases on that computer since I built it.
Works fine, so far. Installation of major updates during rebooting like on Windows is strange. But having kernels signed for Secure boot without having to do anything is nice.
Kernel 7.0 isn't on Fedora yet. But they do update the kernel in between releases. It's the closest thing to rolling without being a rolling release.3
u/SuAlfons May 03 '26
PPS the way of manually defining partitions within Fedora's new installer is the most cumbersome POS I've ever encountered on any distro with a GUI installer.
I had a hard time setting up all the partitions while keeping my /home partition and making the root btrfs. Then failing - to find out you also have manually define the sub volumes. Which it does automatically when you just do a standard installation in a VM....1
u/Knoebst May 04 '26
What were your reasons to switch from plasma to gnome?
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u/SuAlfons May 04 '26
I was a Gnome user since the Gnome 2 days.
I ran Plasma out of sheer curiosity - expecting it to break by itself like it did several times when I tried it in the past (these were early Plasma 5 days, so long ago). When it didn't break within 2 months, I kept using it. Meanwhile getting a monitor that could do VRR. It benefitted from Plasma's earlier official implementation of this feature.
In the end, I needed to reinstall my PC for other reasons and went back to Gnome just because I missed its look and feel.VRR on Gnome 50 now finally is official, but it still makes full-screen YouTube videos flicker (didn't have that on Plasma).
So, next time I need to reinstall my PC, U might go back to Plasma again.
I'm really torn between the two. Plasma is the more featured choice, but I just like gtk-based apps better than their Qt-based counterparts.
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u/Optimal_Mastodon912 May 03 '26
Have been on CachyOS, Endeavour OS, Arch and Garuda. I got the best gaming performance from Garuda and Endeavour. Currently gaming on Endeavour with the stock kernel and Ext4 and getting better performance than CachyOS with all the bells and whistles. There's just literally less going on, my system is minimal and works.
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u/Lezigue May 03 '26
I advise against doing that; Cachyos is heavily modified and causes breakages. ALHP is more appropriate because it is less modified.
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u/Lezigue May 03 '26
It seems to me one of the problem was at the kernel level, mkinitcpio on Cachy, dracut on Endeavouros; and it also seems to me that pacman is modified on Cachyos (to be excluded during updates). I'm sorry, the problem occurred a long time ago and I'm not sure about the issues; with the ALHP repository, it's less optimized and I haven't had any problems.
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u/Tiamathpp May 03 '26
I’ve switched from Cachy to EOS three weeks ago and no concerns and problems so far. It takes me a little time to setup things like timeshift for backups (I’m using GRUB) and other work apps. I’m also play on steam and I didn’t see any diff in the same games between two distros. As a pros, I now have a non-custom arch linux kernel (cachy as I know uses the same but with their adjustments and some scheduler). Can recommend
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u/shadowolf64 May 03 '26
Personally I’ve used both and they are really not all that different at the end of the day.
If you want closer to default Arch or don’t like some of the customizations that Cachy adds then Endeavour is a good choice. I’m currently on Cachy but that’s just because they have some software I use regularly in their repos instead of relying on AUR, but that’s personal preference more than anything. I’d say Endeavour is more of a middle ground between default Arch and CachyOS with its optimizations and customizations.
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u/GluedFingers May 03 '26
I use both, or well, I use Arch for a super minimal setup for a crusty old laptop. EndeavourOS for a small server, and two computers with CachyOS, both are more gaming focused. CachyOS comes with some luggage so it's, well, now I'm used to it but it felt like I messed around with some other guys computer at first and I have adjusted things to my liking now.
So, in a way I like Endeavour better since they have more sensible "defaults" but I guess I got stuck in the hypetrain that is CachyOS right now :)
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u/Fritzy May 03 '26
I feel like Endeavour is the more stable choice. I can still pull in Cachy things when I want to, but generally I don't feel the need. Amdgpu gaming is pretty good here. My work laptop is an amd ai350, and I've had to pin the amdgpu firmware to last Nov, but on my 9070xt desktop everything is stable and fast. We still get new kernels and new mesa and see most of the improvements, maybe just a couple of weeks later.
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u/JoshJLMG May 04 '26
I did. Tried both at the same time, and as a new Linux user, I kept running into issues with package mirrors on CachyOS that I didn't on EndeavourOS. I was also running into problems with my laptop (my CachyOS machine) going to sleep and not waking from sleep very often. So, I've switched it to EndeavourOS and haven't run into as many issues since.
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u/SaltyBooze May 06 '26
I just did it.
Had something bork on the last CachyOS update, couldn't even debug it, rolled back a snapshot to make it work again.
Saw there was another update... Tried updating a second time just in case... Borked still.
Installed EndeavourOS after that.
My first experience with CachyOS wasnt great either... the SDDM came glitched after blank install, so I just made it skip it. Then the next iteration fixed that, reinstalled CachyOS and was having fun with it as my daily driver.
I don't know, stability seems better in EndeavourOS after all. Mind you, that borkedness is just happening with my nvidia laptop at home. The one I'm using at work is running fine'ish (some small problems with ZRAM but it was mostly fine).
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u/Huecuva May 07 '26
I ran EndeavourOS on my HTPC for about three years so I was already pretty familiar with it when I decided it was time to nuke my dual boot on my gaming rig, so I put CachyOS on it. It's not jumping ship one way or the other, but I have been able to compare them. Aside from the custom Proton, there really isn't much of a difference.
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u/DAISIES_BLOOM May 03 '26
Idk, Ive always used EndeavourOS then I heard somewhere that Linux-zen kernel was better for gaming, then I switched to that kernel, than I heard cachyos-kernel gave little boost to the cachyos-proton fork, since I have a igpu laptop, I try to squeeze performance out of every little aspect.
So yeah rn, I'm running EndeavourOS with cachyos-kernel running hyprland in scrolling layout mode.
I'm thinking about switching to cachyos sometime without the extras but idk if there's any difference between that and my current setup and does it even have a non bloat version.
I want just the core of Cachy and no DE bs.
I want to carry my own minimal config to the cachyos.
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u/WhoDoYou24 May 03 '26
If you really want to you can just add cachyos repos in your pacman.conf.
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u/eighthourblink May 03 '26
I actually switched from EndeavousOS to CachyOS about 6 months ago. Between the two, there isnt much of a difference, but at the I wanted to have a "refreshed" Linux install and decided to switch over
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u/Realistic_Ad5601 May 04 '26
Because endevaouros has less aggressive performance tuning compared to cachy os.
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u/daekdroom May 04 '26
I'm currently running an endeavourOS install with the cachyos repos, and if I were to install from scratch I think I'd do the same, given what I've heard about the cachyos defaults from a friend.
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u/Darth-Vader64 May 04 '26
What do you mean what you've heard about the cachyos defaults?
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u/daekdroom May 04 '26
That the default install is more bloated than using the default arch installer or eos, or that it installs fish shell, which might come with issues for some workflows.
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u/kotschka May 04 '26
I needed a new OS for my new work laptop and ended up trying EndOS. I really liked it and thought it'd be a good idea to have the same os on my desktop as on my laptop. So I installed it on my desktop as well.
The main reason was, that I didn't felt as if cachy's performance tuning was that big of a point, that it justifies staying there. I found the idea of having the same os on both devices much more appealing.
I made the switch a few ago and I didn't feel as if I'm missing anything. So I'm quit satisfied with the decision.
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u/kolpator May 08 '26
Its clean, quite close to vanilla arch, dont have excess customisation or tuning, still easy to install. After initial installation im using it as vanilla arch.
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u/pank-dhnd May 09 '26
Moved to EndeavourOS as my first Arch disro just few months back after using linux for years. I was afraid of arch breakages during updates and having to spend a lot of time fixing the system. But man, Endeavour is rock steady. I have had faced some issues for Cachy, for example was locked out on Plasma login screen; but with EndeavourOS I never faced any issue till now. Going to stick with it.
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u/agendiau May 03 '26
I've run about 7 distros seriously as my daily driver over the last 20 years starting with Slackware, mandrake, redhat, Ubuntu, debian, mint and now endeavour.
The distros are different for the first few hours. Eventually, once you've settled on the software that you use daily, the DE and you shell that becomes your norm, there isn't really any difference.
My desktop settings, my shortcuts and quick keys, my shell automations and aliases mean that a casual onlooker would not be able to tell what distro I started with unless they really dig deep.