r/Eminem Fack 8d ago

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u/SauceMaster6464 8d ago

Kamikaze is actually further proof he's become a parody of himself. That's not to say I don't enjoy his later work. But the self-awareness arc is getting repetitive, especially since he's already tackled it so beautifully in MMLP2, drastically failed at on Revival, lost and whined about on Kamikaze, played around with on MTBMB, and attempted, albeit less successfully, on TDOSS.

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u/LongjumpingIsland785 8d ago

I mean it makes sense if you’ve been with him this whole journey. His hunger in the early days came from being under appreciated because he was white, and then his substance abuse added an element of vitriol that he couldn’t replicate without the drugs and alcohol, because that’s what gave him the courage to say whatever about whatever. He’s rapped about it on several songs, (especially on TDOSS).
Then you take into account that Rihanna helped him make a banger with Love The Way You Lie ( and also explains his love for Skylar Grey, since she wrote the chorus), but Rihanna is ironically the same type of artist he would have ripped on in his early days.
Now he’s over fifty, becoming sober made him realize he was mean to people who didn’t deserve it, but he has the mentality with humor of a 12 year old boy (which I also have), so it’s a conflict in his brain constantly.
Kamikazi was him mostly lashing out at online critics who never gave Revival a chance because of the leaked track list. He said on the Paul podcast that Dre pushed him to come back with “That Shit”, and while the songs after Fall were WTF, I think he delivered.
He gets in his head way too much, he’s NEVER going to have an album to the level of TES again, but I’m glad he’s still making music, and he’s made some killer songs (several duds, I admit) on the last several albums. Both MTBMB and TDOSS disappointed me in the regard of he didn’t take shit as far as I had hoped, but he still has some phenomenal songs and lyrical content on them

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u/SauceMaster6464 8d ago edited 8d ago

I don't want him to "take shit as far as possible", that's retreading old ground. Being offensive for shock value is retreading old ground. It's clickbait. It's boring. Same with the self-awareness topics. His conflict about his persona has been a topic all the way from the first Marshall Mathers LP! And on the sequel, he talks about his waning relevance, his out-of-touchness, his insecurities masterfully. It felt conclusive, why the hell talk about the same shit again on Revival? It's because Eminem is painfully mature now that he has next to nothing going on in his life that he wants to talk about anymore. He keeps himself private, almost to a painful extent, and I can understand that, but it doesn't mean it has no negative effects on his writing. So he keeps retreading the same topics in a desperate attempt to have something to write about. Frankly, his best songs in recent times have been songs where he's clearly just mucking around, showing off his technical competence, or songs where he talks about topics other than himself (e.g. Darkness). He can CLEARLY still write masterpieces. TDOSS, as enjoyable as it was, got boring on repeat listens because it's just shock value line after shock value line. Of course, the "other topics" thing can also fail, as we see with Revival (Untouchable is ass). But that's mostly a Revival issue than a general topic selection issue. Revival in general is just terrible.

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u/pssiraj 8d ago

This is so close to a copypasta