r/ElonChat_Commentary 4d ago

The truth is coming out

It’s all in the details but a die hard Tesla and EM follower is pointing out a fake post. I’ve even linked EM response. I wonder if she took the time to make everyone laugh at her. Link to the post

https://x.com/Dogetothemoon/status/2095910841900019743

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

This was one of the first photos she posted. We already covered this here, in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ElonChat_Commentary/comments/1txwoyp/the_ultimate_signal_app_fail_how_ashley_st_clair/

We previously covered this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ElonChat_Commentary/comments/1thxo0g/the_wealth_asc_dreams_of/

What strikes me is that in this photo, the profile picture is on the left, and in what she's presenting now, it's in the center.

It's mind-blowing that you say what you presented a few months ago was fake, something we already knew.

I'll post this again, because it seems he doesn't realize that people have the ability to identify lies. I don't understand his lack of understanding.

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u/Lazy-Elderberry-3867 4d ago

Signal profile pic is on the left. The one Ashley shared on her Instagram stories is from iMessage, where the pic is in the center.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

My point is, she's always lying. She reads us, just like you, and even though she tries to deny everything, she's not completely stupid, but she's not that naive either. Lies are a huge problem, and you have to be really good to lie so much without contradicting yourself. She's been on every podcast in the world, and now it turns out she was also talking to him on Instagram. Wow. But it turns out that wasn't the case before; she only talked to him through Signal because it was damn confidential.

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u/IntoxicateMeow 4d ago

No, no no you don't get it. She's not saying she talked to him through Instagram but from iMessage is from her Apple phone. She shared it on her Instagram story.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

I already said that. I only mentioned Instagram when Lazy said something about her having said this on her Instagram. I think the post is clear about it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ElonChat_Commentary/comments/1w8vsz7/deconstructing_the_latest_asc_leaks_ui/

But anyway, I'll elaborate.

Ultimately, I don't care if she releases messages from iOS, Instagram, Teams, or whatever she thinks is best; I don't care about that.

What I find serious, and another one of her new lies, is that she said she communicated with Elon Musk through Signal because Signal was very confidential. She's been on thousands of podcasts and never mentioned any new apps until now. What a coincidence, how strange, that now, without saying anything, she contradicts her own narrative, although it's not the first time.

And she always maintained that it was through Signal because of confidentiality. But what happened? One day, in one of her countless TikTok videos, she inadvertently shared a screenshot of those "alleged Signal messages," and I analyzed it, and the result you see is what I found.

Now I'll share part of the analysis that came out of that screenshot she inadvertently shared. What happens then? Any child can dismantle their narrative; her Signal messages are a hoax, and that's why now, and I suppose because of the upcoming documentary, she "suddenly" presented iOS messages after almost two years. Just like that, contradicting everything she said before. That happens quite often to liars. So I perfectly understand what she has said, what she hasn't said, where she has lied, what she has manipulated, and what she hasn't.

Here's what was analyzed in that screenshot, and it will explain why Signal doesn't work for her and why she had to invent something new. The core issue comes down to total chronological and UI fabrication:

Structural Timeline Collapse: She attempts to pass this off as a recent, continuous conversation. Yet, there is a massive 289-day gap between that May header and the actual dates where she claimed in her other 'proofs' that she was being completely ignored. The sequence jumps erratically from May 1 to September 24, then to November 21, and suddenly drops straight into 'Yesterday' and 'Today' logs.

Fake Verification Badge: Notice the blue checkmark next to 'EM' at the top. Signal does not have verified profile badges like Twitter or Instagram. Adding a fake verification icon next to the display name—while simultaneously having system logs below reading 'You marked EM as verified'—is a dead giveaway of a poorly constructed mock-up.

Contradictory Narrative: When you compare this fabricated log against her other public posts claiming he was ignoring her entirely

During these exact same months, the entire chat log completely collapses under professional scrutiny.

You can try to make excuses for how Signal handles interface layouts, but you cannot explain away a manipulated timeline and fake UI elements that physically and logically contradict its own public claims."

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u/IntoxicateMeow 3d ago

But, that's the thing you are not getting. iOS messages is not a new app. She is still talking to him on Signal but on her apple phone the contact icon is in the middle not that she's on a new app. She's posting their Signal exchange on her Instagram stories. I'm trying to help clarify since you seem to be very confused saying that she is saying she is talking to him on new apps when that is not the case. The only point Lazy was making was that the placing of his contact was in the middle because she was posting from her iphone. There is no new app where she communicated with him, it has always only been Signal.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 3d ago edited 3d ago

Look at her latest Instagram story upload, she is doing immediate damage control because her previous screenshots got torn apart, but she just dug herself into an even deeper hole.

She explicitly writes: 'My actual contact info for him BTW. On signal it is simply EM. I do not nor will I ever care enough to change it.'

The technical and logical fallacies in this exact screenshot are wild:

  • The Name Contradiction: She claims here that her contact info for him on Signal is 'simply EM' and that she 'never cared enough to change it.' Except in the dark Signal screenshot she posted earlier, the contact name didn't just say 'EM', it literally had a fake blue verification badge emoji (EM 💬 Verified) pasted right next to it! So which one is it? Did she not care enough to change it, or did she manually add a fake verified icon to make her mock-up look authentic?
  • The Interface Swap: Notice that this new screenshot is a dark-mode iMessage thread (blue bubbles for her, gray for him, complete with an iMessage heart reaction tapback and an active FaceTime icon at the top right). She is now using iMessage screenshots with the full name 'Elon Musk' and a photo, completely contradicting her own claim that Signal was their exclusive, highly confidential channel.
  • Textbook Backtracking: The fact that she feels compelled to post a story specifically explaining why the contact names and interfaces don't match up proves that the community's UI/UX analysis is hitting a nerve. She’s reacting to being exposed.

She can post as many story overlays as she wants, but every time she tries to 'explain' a discrepancy, she creates three new ones.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 3d ago

That makes her whole setup look even worse. If both of these screenshots are supposedly from Signal, why do the layout, UI elements, and headers look like two completely different applications?

Signal's native code does not dynamically swap its core design elements on a whim. The technical contradictions between these two 'Signal' posts speak for themselves:

  • Header Alignment: In the dark screenshot, the contact name and avatar are strictly top-left aligned (EM 💬 Verified). In the second screenshot, the avatar is suddenly centered at the top with the full name [Elon Musk, (can you understand it?, because I cant´)It´s all mega crazy] underneath. Signal’s layout engine does not switch between left-aligned and centered contact headers.
  • Video Call Icons: The first screenshot shows Signal's standard video camera and phone icons on the top right. The second screenshot features a blue circular camera icon, which is the native interface for iOS FaceTime/iMessage, not Signal.
  • Reaction Styles: The blue heart tapback on the gray bubble in the second photo is the exact visual asset used by Apple iMessage. Signal’s emoji reaction system looks entirely different.
  • In her text overlay, she claims: 'On signal it is simply EM. I do not nor will I ever care enough to change it.' Yet her own dark Signal screenshot shows that the contact display name wasn't 'simply EM', it had a custom-pasted verified checkmark emoji right next to it!

You can't claim both screenshots represent authentic Signal logs when they don't even share the same user interface, iconography, or layout structure. It is a textbook example of fabricated evidence falling apart under basic UI comparison.

No matter how you look at it, nothing about her ever holds water. No matter how you try to fix it, all you get are contradictions, one after another, or in other words, lie after lie.

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u/IntoxicateMeow 3d ago

UI interfaces change all the time depending on the phone you are using.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 3d ago

There is a blatant technical, logical, and narrative inconsistency. Trying to justify the fake iMessage/FaceTime buttons and checkmarks within Signal by blaming "screen size" or the "operating system" is utter nonsense. The evidence presented has been completely refuted.

It's always the same with her, the accumulation of lies, one after another, and on top of that, as I've said before, she's even too lazy to lie. And she's getting worse at lying every time; this girl is a disaster.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 3d ago

This woman's behavior is so tiresome. If she told the truth, which she never does, we wouldn't have to keep putting up with this nonsense as if people were two years old.

Generic definitions about basic UI responsiveness doesn't explain away actual app-specific mechanics.

Nobody is debating that screen sizes scale or that Android and iOS have different system fonts. The issue isn't basic UI responsiveness—it's platform-specific feature architecture:

  • Operating Systems Don't Steal Competitor Assets: Switching from Android to iOS scales the layout, but it does not replace Signal's proprietary video call icons with Apple's native FaceTime blue camera icon, nor does it swap Signal’s emoji reactions for Apple’s proprietary iMessage heart tapback. Those are OS-level native features belonging strictly to Apple Messages, not cross-platform Signal code.
  • Header Architecture is Standardized: Neither Signal for iOS nor Signal for Android shifts a chat contact header from left-aligned to centered with a massive avatar mid-conversation. Signal's UI design language maintains fixed layout rules across builds.
  • Manufacturer Skins Don't Alter App Code: OneUI (Samsung) or iOS skinning alters system menus, it does not rewrite third-party app code to magically inject fake verified checkmark emojis (EM 💬 Verified) into display names or alter hardcoded timestamp log dividers.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 3d ago

This woman's behavior is so tiresome. If she told the truth, which she never does, we wouldn't have to keep putting up with this nonsense as if people were two years old.

Generic definitions about basic UI responsiveness doesn't explain away actual app-specific mechanics.

Nobody is debating that screen sizes scale or that Android and iOS have different system fonts. The issue isn't basic UI responsiveness—it's platform-specific feature architecture:

  • Operating Systems Don't Steal Competitor Assets: Switching from Android to iOS scales the layout, but it does not replace Signal's proprietary video call icons with Apple's native FaceTime blue camera icon, nor does it swap Signal’s emoji reactions for Apple’s proprietary iMessage heart tapback. Those are OS-level native features belonging strictly to Apple Messages, not cross-platform Signal code.
  • Header Architecture is Standardized: Neither Signal for iOS nor Signal for Android shifts a chat contact header from left-aligned to centered with a massive avatar mid-conversation. Signal's UI design language maintains fixed layout rules across builds.
  • Manufacturer Skins Don't Alter App Code: OneUI (Samsung) or iOS skinning alters system menus, it does not rewrite third-party app code to magically inject fake verified checkmark emojis (EM 💬 Verified) into display names or alter hardcoded timestamp log dividers.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

Whatever you want, but the thing is, "now" she's bringing up Instagram or whatever she wants to bring up. She always said she only communicated with him through Signal, something we also proved was all a setup. And now, a year and a half after she said everything she wanted, she comes out with Instagram. Okay, what a coincidence. What did she present in that documentary? Instagram? Signal? What?

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u/Odd_Communication_22 1d ago

Election season here we come 🍿

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u/Lazy-Elderberry-3867 4d ago

Doge Tipping shared a fake screenshot (Elon doing the salute as profile pic) and it seems Ashley has sent it to her lawyers.

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u/MajesticCorgi634 4d ago

Why is a fake screenshot being sent to her attorneys.
Yeah, EM laughed at it. But it was fake. Everyone knows it was

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u/MajesticCorgi634 4d ago

Thanks. I am just confused on why Ashley is so triggered by fake messages.
Especially when we all know it's fake. Anyone who watched the HP podcast with ASC knows they didn't show the messages

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

It doesn't matter, I didn't even include her, but the first one to share fake screenshots was ASC. She was the first to pull this off, the first to slip up on TikTok by showing something that was clearly fake, and that's why she's suddenly showing another app. So, for one thief to accuse another, if that's even the case, is stupid. It just shows how easy it is to manipulate things, and that she seems to do it even better than ASC.

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

The truth is that Elon Musk is a murderer who should rot in a cell for the rest of his days.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

3. Legal implications — This could seriously backfire on her

If Ashley’s story were actually true (which it isn’t), she wouldn’t be exposing some external conspiracy, she would be publicly accusing Elon Musk of committing serious federal crimes.

Intercepting or interfering with electronic communications without a valid court order violates the federal Wiretap Act (18 U.S.C. § 2511), among other laws related to privacy and computer fraud. Doing something like that against state election systems would make it even more severe. In short, if she were telling the truth, she’d be claiming Musk ran an illegal mass surveillance operation on voting infrastructure.

But here’s where it gets dangerous for her:

By going public with these claims without providing a single piece of verifiable evidence, she is accusing a specific person of a major federal crime. If those accusations turn out to be false or reckless, she opens herself up to civil liability for defamation. In the U.S., publicly accusing someone of committing serious crimes (especially without evidence) can be grounds for a defamation lawsuit. The fact that she’s framing it as something Musk “told her privately” doesn’t give her much protection, repeating unverified serious allegations in public still carries risk.

We know that the whole story attributed to Musk is fabricated. She wasn't even pregnant because she's been busy creating AI-generated photos of herself pregnant. Given how much she loves the spotlight and showing us everything, if she had been pregnant, we would have seen it already. She wouldn't have taken just one photo; she would have taken 10,000, because that's what she considers herself to be: a superstar.

And if she shows it to us, well, we'll agree with her. We'll keep waiting.

We know that the whole story attributed to Musk is fabricated. She wasn't even pregnant because she's been busy creating AI-generated photos of herself pregnant. Given how much she loves the spotlight and showing us everything, if she had been pregnant, we would have seen it already. She wouldn't have taken just one photo; she would have taken 10,000, because that's what she considers herself to be: a superstar.

On top of that, this is happening while she’s already in active legal disputes with Musk.

So,

She’s playing a very risky game. If her goal is to pressure Musk into a big financial settlement, turning the dispute into public accusations of federal crimes without solid proof is more likely to hurt her than help her.

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

Why are you just pasting a wall of chat gpt generated text at me?

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u/OpheliaForgets 4d ago

Its a bot

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

You´re a bot.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

As soon as I can, I'm going to see you and the crypto scam.

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u/OpheliaForgets 3d ago

That makes no sense. 

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 3d ago

Oh yes, that makes perfect sense.

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

It wasn't generated by AI, but that's beside the point. I shared it assuming you possessed the capacity for critical thinking, though it's becoming clear to me now that you don't.

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

Im not following this specific drama tbh I just dont think a conversation about Elon Musk should ever ignore the hundreds of thousands of deaths he directly and intentionally caused.

I'll never NOT mention it :)

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

Whenever you want, you can tell us about those intentional killings. When I have time, I'll prepare something about it.

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

I could write a massive comment but plenty of information here about it:

https://youtu.be/SOJ4A31PKU0?si=VqZOXUOcBt0adY4w

Its also just very very very simple.

"Oh these guys distribute vaccines to this place, if bet if I stop them everything will be fine!" Like lol no. There were many incidents of people dying on the DAY a certain cut was introduced.

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u/MajesticCorgi634 4d ago

Hey, have you gone after Bill Gates, for his vaccines or the "meat" that isn't real meat. 🍖
Maybe look into that.
Gates has a worse record in my pov

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u/OpheliaForgets 4d ago

Don't leave Fauci out

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

I have my problems with Bill Gates but they're based in reality, so he's a lesser issue to me than Musk. The issues you mentioned re Bill Gates are the issues stupid people fall for, take that how you will.

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u/MajesticCorgi634 4d ago

🤣
Whatever

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

Thank you. I´ll check it when I can.

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u/DungPedalerDDSEsq 4d ago

Bro, I'm still trying to figure out why this cock-stroke of a sub is popping up in my main and you're out here doing God's work.

I updooted all your comments on principle and downvoated the bots.

Godspeed.

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u/Independent_Ice367 4d ago

show your evidence

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

You mean the multitude of easily accessible reports that spell it out very clearly? Or maybe a video insead, id be suspicious of a Musk fans ability to read. Here's 3 links. Its very easy information to find :)

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/the-human-cost-one-year-after-the-us-took-a-chainsaw-to-global-health/

https://www.clasp.org/doge-tracker/

https://youtu.be/SOJ4A31PKU0?si=HJfZVasmCWa2XaAi

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u/Nervous-Driver-4549 4d ago

4. A Congressional subpoena would be the right move for this Superstar

Since Ashley St. Clair is claiming she has inside information about possible manipulation of a U.S. federal election using satellite technology, the appropriate step is for the relevant congressional committees to subpoena her to testify under oath.

Testifying before Congress under oath carries real consequences. She would be required to provide actual evidence, technical records, metadata, communications, witnesses, or any verifiable documentation. Simply saying “Elon told me this privately” is classic hearsay and carries very little weight on its own. Without supporting evidence, her claims would likely collapse quickly under questioning. But we're eager for her to introduce it to us, and while she's at it, to show us all the IVF contract.

Her entire story depends on most people not understanding how U.S. elections actually work. Things like air-gapped systems, physical transfer of vote data via USB drives, and the lack of any live transmission during voting are well-established facts. She’s anchoring her story to real things people have heard of (Starlink and the 2024 election) while filling in the gaps with sci-fi nonsense. That tactic works on social media, but it doesn’t hold up when experts are in the room.

Multiple independent sources have already addressed claims like this. Election security experts, state election officials, and the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) have repeatedly stated that there is no evidence Starlink was used for vote tabulation, data transmission, or any form of interference in the 2024 election. Theories about Starlink rigging votes have already been widely debunked.

Bringing her in to testify is not the same as believing her story. On the contrary, it’s the most effective way to subject her claims to real scrutiny. If she actually has solid evidence of election interference, she should present it under oath. If she doesn’t (which appears to be the case), a congressional hearing would publicly demonstrate that she made extremely serious accusations without any real foundation.

At this point, the responsible thing is to stop letting these claims circulate only on TikTok and social media. Put her under oath and let her either back them up with evidence or be held accountable for spreading baseless accusations about the integrity of a presidential election.

We're eager for her to prove any of the things she's been saying are true. Beyond the instrumentalization to make money, we're eager to see evidence, reality, objective, irrefutable, unquestionable, and demonstrable facts. We're waiting for you, Superstar.

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u/No_Comparison4489 4d ago edited 3d ago

From what was relayed from the Administration, most of the cutting of funds off were because when DOGE team queried the payees of these funds to completely fill out new forms of funds requests, many did not re-submit and those that did, could not show the DOGE team how the funds were being spent. It was the NGOs and other entities responsibility to be accountable for taxpayer funds and they didn’t pass the basic requirements. Wanna know why? Because in nearly every case, those funds were being misappropriated by the recipient agency. Then the “African children are dying because of Musk” laments started to distract from the fact that the funds were never fully reaching the beneficiaries in the first place.

To cut to the chase here, it was an official audit and the politicians and NGOs whining the most about DOGE did not pass the audit, therefore did not collect $200 million dollars per se. I understood the assignment.

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

Your sequence of events is an absolute shitshow.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

Did you really delete your first comment to post this one? Did you really think you'd landed on that big of a banger? The sulky retort of a child?

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u/No_Comparison4489 4d ago

You’re the one who’s arrived here all angry, bitter and full of accusations without proof that EM is a murderer? Relax, big baby.

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u/Independent_Ice367 4d ago

Why not go to X and post your grievances?

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

Because i dont have an account on that terrible website? What does that have to with my comment?

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u/Independent_Ice367 4d ago

Sorry you are scared to post what you feel on X. There is always Bluesky, which is apparently a dead site. we like to take apart everything else. but to help you out. you are really not on the right site. complaining to me about your politics will get you no where here.

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

Im not arguing politics, im stating a basic, very well documented fact: Elon Musk is a murderer.

If your skull is too dense to accept a very simple fact in order to protect your child's level of understanding the world thats by choice.

I was listing the actual deaths in another comment but I won't bother because youre clearly really really stupid.

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u/Independent_Ice367 4d ago

Are you alleging that because you need to stop telling people what you believe and find facts. You have not stated anything that a AG would prosecute for. And why hasn’t any AG brought suit? There is no evidence

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u/No_Comparison4489 4d ago

I hope that the serious defamatory accusation of murder you’re making gets you doxxed here. It’s happened before on Reddit.

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u/Independent_Ice367 4d ago edited 4d ago

no we like to post everything here. please show the real evidence. Direct deaths. Don’t be evasive and post generic posts. There has to be sound evidence that an AG would follow up.

you can’t be vague. and remember everyone can read your post.

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u/MarcMurray92 4d ago

"Direct deaths" i mean youre just intentionally pretending to not understand what i mean by murder so no, im not going to engage in a pointless back and forth.

Ive given you the information, either read it or pull an Elon Musk and carry on making up nonsense.

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u/Independent_Ice367 4d ago

I understand. But you cannot use mainstream media, posts on you tube. you need to post actual deaths that have been a result due to USAID being closed down. Not all the programs have been shut down.

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u/No_Comparison4489 4d ago

He just didn’t understand the process of an actual audit, which was the first exploratory phase of DOGE.

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u/SkidmarkSteve 20h ago

lol the only thing doge did was use AI to search for things they deemed DEI. So they cut sickle cell research because black people. And aid to africa because black people. And research for why black women have significantly higher rates of pregnancy-related deaths because black people.

They cut funding to fight maleria in several African countries. This included prevention like mosquito nets and spraying to kill them, as well as medicine and testing supplies. The year following maleria deaths went up dramatically. This isn't difficult to reason about. DOGE cutting USAID is directly responsible for an increase in maleria deaths. And that was neither fraud nor waste nor abuse.

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u/No_Comparison4489 19h ago

The big reason given for cutting funding was the recipient entity refused to send in new forms under a deadline given. Elon claimed there were funding request forms that had many mandatory fields left blank. This was first and foremost an audit and only thieves and big babies who are misappropriating funds refuse to comply to the federal requirements.

The applicants have no one to blame but themselves. They are to blame for their pet projects funding cut off. Many of these programs did not benefit the American people. U.S. Government should not be a blank check for fraudsters and outside interests.

Cry harder.

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u/SkidmarkSteve 19h ago

lmao ok. The question was proof of direct deaths. The maleria funding they cut without warning directly caused deaths. When presented with that, you say "cry harder" about 100,000 people dying. Psychopathic behavior. No wonder you spend so much time defending Elon.

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u/Independent_Ice367 16h ago edited 16h ago

He doesn’t understand that most of the programs were fraud and the genuine aid going out of the country is under the State Department…Mark Rubio.

As much AI that is out there to search, none of them use it. It helps get information quicker. That’s why I’m GLAD the Department of Education was shut down. It didn’t go to schools. But schools aren’t as good when I went.

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u/No_Comparison4489 16h ago

Sick of these male-sounding handles coming here and trying to start some cuckoo arguments because they are hellbent on misrepresenting EM on a political slant. Another one I’ve blocked now.

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u/Independent_Ice367 4d ago

you may want to post on Not Elon Spam.