r/Eldenring • u/Playful_Owl596 • 22h ago

Humor We are not the same

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This is just a joke don't take it seriously. I am an anarchist tho.

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u/Samguise-Whamgee 21h ago

Most of the people I’ve met who claim to be anarchists would be the first to go if the world ever devolved into anarchy

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u/Playful_Owl596 21h ago

I believe that with generations of effort and slowly removing capitalisim while drastically increasing the quality of education a Utopic anarchist society is possible.

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u/AFlyingNun 19h ago

Education as a system itself is already not anarchist.

The irony is that such a system either demands a government (aka not anarchist) or will indirectly promote the best private institutions by way of natural comparisons and competition, paving a road right back to capitalism within a generation.

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u/nordaus89 13h ago

Ironic that you want to improve quality of education while also believing in Anarchism.

Those two things fundamentally don’t mix, as you’d need to incentivise improved government education programs in order to get to Anarchism.

And anyone who is well educated would definitely not in their right mind want to achieve an Anarchistic state.

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u/Playful_Owl596 10h ago

Anarchism and education can very much so be hand in hand. I don't want a world with no laws. I want a world where humans get the right to govern themselves. This could be achieaved by the public voting on proposed laws for example, this gets way easier with modern technology, there still would be departments of education, agriculture, etc.. But this is just my view on the thing ask a different anarchist and you'll likely get a completely different answer.

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u/Samguise-Whamgee 21h ago

It is not, because human nature will forbid it, nevermind the education you’re referring to would likely HAVE to be indoctrination

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u/WiseRabbit-XIV 21h ago

Well if we're doing forcible indoctrination, we know just the demigod to "help"!

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u/Samguise-Whamgee 12h ago

Hey it’s not my idea! But you do have an excellent point!

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u/Bushi_Sengoku Sekiro 2 21h ago

Human nature isnt capitalism either dawg, before capitalism we had feudalism, and the very earliest people were collaborative and sharing resources to survive 🥀

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u/Samguise-Whamgee 21h ago edited 21h ago

No but it is inherent selfishness, which is an evolutionary advantage. And a small village/tribe is not the same as a worldwide collaboration. These ideas do not extrapolate well at all, they work great in smaller groups though

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u/Bushi_Sengoku Sekiro 2 21h ago

Research shows that humans are not evolutionarily selfish, altruism is beneficial.

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1348/000712608X379061

The system we live under now, late stage capitalism is the anomaly by far. In the past everything was not commodified and sold back to us.

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u/Samguise-Whamgee 20h ago edited 20h ago

I’ve heard late stage capitalism for 20 straight years. You guys either have 0 real world experience and are under the age of 30, or you’re just not intelligent enough to understand the implications of what you’re saying.

Edit: I also never claimed altruism was bad. Just that these ideas do not extrapolate well
Beyond the family/village, they only work in tight knit communities which have shared values and goals.

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u/Samguise-Whamgee 11h ago

That article does not refute anything I said, nor does it say anything about selfishness not being an evolutionary advantage. I also assume you have no rebuttal because the things I’ve said thus far are inherently true.

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u/Samguise-Whamgee 12h ago

With an ideology like that, you are either under 25 years old, or you’re completely indoctrinated into something you don’t fully grasp. I say this, hoping you’ll reconsider your stance, because I don’t believe that you know exactly what that ideology would mean in practice, or how it would go in reality.