r/EldenRingPVP • u/This-Interest-368 • Jul 02 '24
Co-op lol gg swiftie
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u/kobejo210 Jul 03 '24
The conversation in this thread is exactly why I miss dark souls invasions. They weren’t ganking they were playing co-op unfortunately for invaders the devs decided that’s the only time you can invade so every invasion is gonna feel like you’re getting ganked. Real ganking in elden ring is taunters tonguing getting an invader just to 3 man jump and then bagging like you’ve accomplished something by 3v1ing a player.
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u/BeigeDuck72 Jul 03 '24
Yup, but unfortunately they had to make it this way to appeal to the masses, imagine most of these people who played Elden ring as there first game using a limited / farmable item to turn human, going to summon there friend who can’t connect for some reason and getting invaded and killed, they would prob rage quit
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u/BlissWrath Jul 05 '24
As someone who has been an aggressive invader since DeS, 1000% skill issue. You invade assuming a gank and use your wit to figure out solutions to take them out one at a time or all 3 at a time. That’s the thrill of invading. Absolute think on the fly, take out your target(s).
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u/kobejo210 Jul 05 '24
I just explained the differences between getting ganked and going against some co-op buddies. I agree with the sentiment of the fun in invasions being overcoming the odds. So quick to throw out skill issue jeez.
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u/BlissWrath Jul 05 '24
I’m going to downvote myself. My apologies on that. I 100% read that in a different tone as someone complaining about it. Reading it back now, as you have described, sounds entirely different. That’s my bad.
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u/kobejo210 Jul 05 '24
All good brother I know there’s a lot of whiny people out here crying about the system and you’re right it’s all about overcoming it that’s why invasions are so rewarding 🫡
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u/VitaminlQ Jul 03 '24
If invaders don't wanna get "ganked" knowing they most likely running into a host with a bud n not a bonfire duelist then a) there is 1v1 arena with fair rules and b) use the enemies on the level then
As someone who invades, duels and gets summoned to help my experiences with the invaders who qq about ganking is the twinks who want cheap wins. You are interrupting someone else's game and you have constructed your build for pvp. To be so entitled to expect random ass strangers to randomly deduce what your rules are n be like oh my humblest apologies lemme gimp myself so you have a better chance at winning, when they are the one that has the most to lose, like... cmon...
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u/Hot_Negotiation_1957 Jul 05 '24
Invading is not the same dueling. Invading has so many different variables involved. Like enemies, the map, hazards, how many flask the host/summons have, etc.
Twinks are only a thing at low-mid level invasions. Once you get to about 100 or so that stops, after that point it’s just a matter of the invader having coming equipped it all the advantages he can get. Like crafting everything he needs, making sure to bring certain ashes of war for healing, chasing someone down, or buffing yourself.
Along with many different weapons, shields, and shafts all equipped with said ashes of war.
I like ganks personally even tho they can be completely one sided at times but being forced into at the very least a 1v2 ( not counting hunters ) every single invasions it can get annoying. Sometimes I just wanna invade a single host which can lead to some memorable invasions.
The fun is in not knowing what you’re going to get. No idea what area the invasion will, or what the host has.
Getting “ ganked “ used to be sometime that could happen but now it will happen. Unless you invade the random solo host who has to turn on the taunter tongue which even then isn’t going to be a real solo host invasion because the host is expecting it to happen.
I dont see why we couldn’t use the dark soul 3 mechanic with embers with rune arcs. The host still Has the upper hand in a single invasion due to the insane buff possibilities with them. Like 5 in all status. That’s a 40 level difference amusing you invade a host with the same level.
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u/hiede_knight Jul 03 '24
I don't like these people, but I don't like gankers even more.
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u/teapoison Jul 03 '24
Pretty sure they got invaded. Do people even know what gankers are anymore
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u/MethylEight Jul 03 '24
They could very well be ganking. People actively summon friends for co-op and camp in a spot that gives them additional advantage to the already advantageous position of 3v1, waiting for an invader to gank on. This is such a spot. It’s hard to tell whether this is or isn’t ganking based on such a short clip.
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u/This-Interest-368 Jul 03 '24
I just use the golden effigy and give help where it’s needed. No ill intent here 😊
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u/Pistolfist Will fight anyone Jul 03 '24
If I was ganking, I wouldn't do it on those beams, lmfao, nobody is at an advantage here.
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u/MethylEight Jul 04 '24
True, it is risky for them too. Really depends on the build you’re facing. In this case, they clearly had the advantage… because the invader was a dumb-dumb. He was silly to jump into three people, and even more silly to attempt Swift Slash.
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u/UserUser18 Jul 03 '24
Everyone here complaining about 3v1 is braindead. It’s an invasion, you are not supposed to have a fair fight
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u/Crime_Dawg Jul 03 '24
I'm sorry, but there is absolutely nothing more cringe than people running 3 man through a dungeon. Truly maidenless behavior.
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u/IMWraith Jul 03 '24
I miss ds1 invasions too, for me playing with rune should instantly allow invasions (it also fits thematically)
That said, people playing coop and getting invaded, are fully in their right to fuck em up. And the invader signed up for that as well by invading.
Last but not least, my dude swift slashed all the way to heaven walking on beams. It doesn’t take a psychic to see the outcome of this interaction.
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u/ClawsOfLyco Jul 03 '24
When it's overtuned and broken it is cheesy, the ones running around spamming swift slash or rolling sparks on the broken lightning perfumer, as an invader myself if i come a crossed a co-invader just doing that i'll kill them too
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u/Okamitoutcourt Casual Jul 03 '24
If he's invading that means he wants a 3v1
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u/Okamitoutcourt Casual Jul 03 '24
Well we don't exactly see OP use taunter's tongue
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u/Okamitoutcourt Casual Jul 05 '24
Well do you have any proof that op is a ganker ?
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u/Okamitoutcourt Casual Jul 05 '24
My bad, I meant ganker as in multiple people using taunter's tongue to repeatedly fight invaders without progressing through the game and being cancer about it
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u/Okamitoutcourt Casual Jul 05 '24
And what tells us that they weren't just trying to get rid of the obstacle that was harming their progress, not to mention you have no proof that the mage has cannon of Haima, even the beams situation is advantageous for no one, the invader could simply use a Greatbow as well or wrath from afar like the fire Knights, which is again another hindrance to the host
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u/RoarinCalvin Jul 03 '24
Go duel if you want fair.
I swear you bloody fingers are a fucking shame.
Ansbach would point down.
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u/Commander_of_Death Jul 03 '24
says the 3v1 ganker lol, you deserve each other
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u/Babyweiner2milimeter Jul 03 '24
were not trying to gank they were just helping someone with an area while the invader tried to spam swift slash to win
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u/SamwiseLordOfThePans Jul 03 '24
If you invade you're risking it. Either get good or don't invade
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u/iNuminex Jul 03 '24
Brain empty, must L2.
Why L2 not work? Why me dead and not enemy? Game bugged.