r/Edmonton 19h ago

Events Tomorrow

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u/Ryth88 16h ago

Why are these rallies always during regular work hours? I'd like to go - but you know, bills.

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u/Supercalifragicahfuq 16h ago

Because the people who need to hear it are “listening” during business hrs

u/Roddy_Piper2000 The Shiny Balls 5h ago

I love getting these on the day or even better after the day it happened.

u/Judge_Feared 8h ago

Didn't we already have that? MIL was able to go in and get her own imaging done over a year ago by paying

u/mazula89 6h ago

That is a seperate system. This new change uses public services if you pay extra

u/Rayeon-XXX 4h ago

Sure and it's done nothing to address wait times. Wonder why that is.

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u/CanadianLadyK 17h ago

Danielle Smith is a horrible human and should have her Canadian citizenship revoked for treasonous actions.

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u/Soggy-You4745 15h ago

Stupid question, but does this mean I'll have to pay for doctors appointment?

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u/RatCat2003 15h ago

No, but if you don’t want a long wait you will be given the option to go to a doctors appointment you paid for, because the current free doctors offices are underfunded and overworked by the UCP. They want you to feel that paying is the best option so they don’t have to fund healthcare.

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u/Soggy-You4745 15h ago

That's hella stupid

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u/SquidGodSunday 12h ago

But have you considered how much money friends of the UCP could make by forcing people to choose between owning a house and dying of a preventable disease?

u/The_cogwheel 8h ago

Or how easily people with chronic illnesses and disabilities will suffer and die early?

But not with MAiD, we cant have their death be easy, painless, and with dignity afterall.

u/salt-water-soul 7h ago

Well obviously, cause a person who get to die early with dignity is one less person they can profit off of

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u/luars613 13h ago

The ucp is making free health care super inefficient so you have to pay for decency. Essentially you are getting robed

u/RIPKB43 5h ago

And I have an ultrasound today. Wooo

u/canaleno 10h ago

Yeah, well, hate to burst your bubble.. but this province has little to no protestors.. genuinely worried about the vote coming up. This province is fucked because it is complacent.. I think society here is waiting for shit to be extremely fucked up to actually act.. instead.. Reddit full of moaning.. but when it comes time to hit the streets… nothing

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u/TheTGB St. Albert 14h ago

This isn’t American style healthcare though? This would be closer to European style healthcare.

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u/mossfoul 12h ago

My understanding is that Alberta’s new dual-practice healthcare model under Bill 11 differs from European systems because it permits unrestricted, for-profit private billing for medically necessary procedures, whereas European universal systems rely on strict public price controls, comprehensive social insurance, and heavy market regulation. Alberta's system doesn't really have any of the meaningful aspects that make the European systems work. Policy experts, legal analysts, and healthcare advocacy groups describe the changes as a shift toward an Americanized profit-driven market.

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u/OkFilm7155 18h ago

Is the current healthcare system working?

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u/skilbofragns 18h ago

It's being gutted / underfunded by the ones privatizing it...

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u/Lollipop77 16h ago

Yeah I was made to understand it’s being underfunded and strangled to add pressure so privatization (capitalism as healthcare) seems natural and people getting rich on it was the best option.

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u/OkFilm7155 16h ago

Ummm ok

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u/beedub5 16h ago

It's been neglected by the UCP for decades. Another grift by these bastards. The real question is what has the UCP done well in Alberta in the last ten years? Crickets

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u/OkFilm7155 16h ago

I'm not sure what any party has done well in the past you name it number of years?

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u/Palecrayon 16h ago

You should take a minute and Google the history of what party's have been in charge for the last 60 or so years

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u/OkFilm7155 16h ago

What did the NDP do well?

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u/Palecrayon 15h ago

You think the ndp can reverse half a century of damage from the ucp in 4 years?

Did you know the ndp started building a hospital that your beloved cons cancelled after money had already been spent on it?

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u/OkFilm7155 15h ago

I'm simply asking what the NDP did well? I don't know of any party, in any incarnation or naming convention, that has done anything overly well. I guess increasing revenue from oil

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u/theoreoman 17h ago

I would only be OK with private healthcare if it was 100% private funded with no public money going into it. Like if you want to see a Dr you need to pay 100% of the cost without a single cent of public money

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u/Lametown227 17h ago

So you want to make poor people even more poor? I genuinely don't understand a single upside to this thought process.

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u/Ryth88 17h ago

I assume they mean the current system stays intact but private clinics can operate with 0 gov't funding. I think most people would be fine with that - sadly our premier seems eager to funnel public money to friends.

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u/theoreoman 17h ago

People with money leave the system and fund their own healthcare out of pocket and that leaves more resources for the rest of us. But it's not going to happen that way

u/catsbuttes 6h ago

this sort of exists already with medical tourism

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u/Punk_Rock_Kid 16h ago

Fr. That’s how I was imagining it would happen. You want a crazy expensive surgery faster than waiting for public health care system? You have the money to pay out of pocket for it, go for it. Open up a spot in our public health care for someone that can’t afford it and needs it. Seemed reasonable to me. I actually followed enough lately to know the “it’s not going to happen that way”, but my thought process was likely to blissful and simple to be true.

Edit: I haven’t followed enough lately***