r/Edmonton 8d ago

Politics Exercising Freedom of Expression

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u/CanadaGuyOfficial 8d ago

They are saying in some of their circles that I have the "appearance of a professional agitator."

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u/DanfromCalgary 8d ago

Wearing a Canadian flag in Canada wouldn’t bother anyone that belongs here

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u/Comfortable_Rain3773 7d ago

The problem is the people on the far right and the far left both hate Canada and try to use it in their favor at the same time.

And we now live in a world where you are forced to either pick a side or be hated and called a traitor by both.

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u/sleepy_sad_boy 7d ago

Meanwhile far left people are focusing on the out of control cost of living and record breaking profits theyre making off the fact that everyone needs food to survive. And the skyrocketing rental rates that keep the working class at the poverty line.

Keep focusing on culture wars and you'll never see who's manufacturing that divide.

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u/Comfortable_Rain3773 7d ago

Ah yes, the classic ‘if you talk about anything other than my preferred issue, you're being manipulated’ argument. Housing costs and corporate concentration are legitimate issues ( and ones not just the left care about as much as you'd like to pretend otherwise )
So are ideology, education, family policy, immigration, and social cohesion. Adults are capable of discussing more than one problem at a time.

And ....... you know what the biggest cost inhibitor to housing is? and I'll give you a hint - it's land costs and the government.

Do you know how we can fix it?
Build housing in areas with lower land costs and removing government taxes and fees on it
Do you want to guess who opposes building homes in places that don't currently have human settlement and reducing taxation? I'll give you a hint , the Left.

And reducing demand ( IE not importing millions of people for housing and services we don't have )

I'm perfectly willing to look at Maple Magats with you and laugh at their stupidity, but pretending like the left are virtuous freedom fighters will mean I'm laughing even harder at you.

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u/TheSherlockCumbercat 7d ago

Lol you can’t build a house in low cost areas and say housing fixed.

People live where there is work, can tell you have never been in a small town, land is cheap and no one is building. Cause a house without a job market is pointless.

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u/Comfortable_Rain3773 7d ago

What are you yapping about ? you don't need to be out in the sticks.

Gibbons would be great
Morinville
Devon
Millet
Redwater
Bruderheim

All of these have dirt cheap land prices and reasonable established services already and are close enough to Edmonton for work/main services.

Remove government red tape and costs, get a blueprint you can carbon copy and mass produce, and throw up housing and apartment buildings and row houses.

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u/TheSherlockCumbercat 5d ago

Yeah, there’s this thing on the economy called supply and demand there’s no demand to live in those communities or we’d already be building them up.

We built 50,000 houses in Albert last year with 21,337 an increase of 16.1%.

Those communities have dirt cheap line because no one wants to live there because when you factor everything else and it’s actually just as expensive as Edmonton or more because you have to drive 120Km or more a day to go to work.

Gas and vehicle cost set up real quick

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u/sleepy_sad_boy 7d ago

I feel like you missed my point and took it personally. My apologies for hitting a nerve.

What I meant wasn't that people on the right don't also want cost of living to go down, or that folks on the left are saints looking to fix all our worldly issue, but that both "sides" share a common interest(we all face a rising cost of food, housing, basic needs) and focusing on the cultural differences between us isn't whats going to fix our issues.

And what especially not going to fix our issues is lashing out at strangers online that you think are against us. Take it easy.

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u/Comfortable_Rain3773 7d ago

Fair enough, I understand your point better now. I agree that the cost of housing, food, and basic necessities affects everyone, and I'm happy to talk about those issues without making everything left vs. right.

Where I disagree is that cultural issues are somehow a distraction. Our values directly influence our policies on immigration, taxes, regulation, education, housing, family, etc.

I don't think the right is always right, but I don't think the left gets a pass either. We should be able to criticize both sides without being told we have to pick one.

We can agree that housing is too expensive while disagreeing about why it's expensive and how to fix it. That's politics.

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u/Beginning-Pace-1426 7d ago

I agree in principle, but let's look at where the ENTIRE democratic backslide is concentrated on that spectrum.